Bagster - I knew by posting what I did that I would receive those labels. I am not throwing up the white flag, going "wobbly", giving up the fight, surrendering, or whatever else you choose to describe, and take umbrage at the accusation. I am just as patriotic, courageous, and prayerful as you.
I am giving my honest and heartfelt assessment, just like you and everyone else here. You know me - I am not a troll, and I support Q, the team, and the President 100%.
Many years ago, I was flying relief supplies into a very dangerous place, and I was also the operations officer for the squadron. My responsibility was to schedule other crews to fly, coordinate with the UN and other nations who controlled the airport, work with intel on the threats...etc. Things went bad, and one of our planes was shot up pretty good, and people were injured. We reassessed what how we were operating. The crews and others gave honest feedback. We talked.
We are on the outside of what is really going on, but we not only do we all here a vested interest in what is going on, we know the future of our Republic is at stake. Q has informed us that the threats, the crimes, the corruption, and the evil is much, much worse than most of us even contemplated.
I don't see things going great right now.
I KNOW there is a plan, I KNOW there are things going on behind the scenes. I get this. You don't have to convince me.
Is the Deep State nervous and rattled, as sweet Ransomnote pointed out? Yes, they are. Their hysterical reaction indicates this.
But even Q has said on several occasions that:
-timelines needed to be move up
President Trump has ordered changes in course
-the Q team realized they had to go more on the offensive
It's all there in the posts.
In my observation, the concepts above need some application.
What do we keep saying around here? That our job is inform the public that is not awake, correct?
Thousands of Patriots have been doing just this. Now, we all know there is progress, but in order to really accomplish this, the Deep State battle must be joined and engaged.
My guess is "The Plan" calls for delays and stagnation to actually make moves that the public will notice, and that we are purposely delaying going into open war with the Deep State because they want to play politics with the mid-term elections and "time it" well.
Now here me out - and think about what I am saying: it's almost impossible to convert friends, family, and co-workers to "The Plan" when we over promise ("April Showers"), Rod Rosenstein in multiple kill boxes, tell people there is a Hillary video, tell people there are pictures and video of Hussein wearing Muslim garb and firing an AK-47 at Old Glory, tell people Adam Schiff is involved in pedophilia/sex trafficking/murder, and one and one - when nothing happens, and nothing is released to the general public (after we tell them Q has the evidence).
One prominent Freeper, who has been right in the past and has insider sources throughout government, is indicating that "You can have Trump's agenda, or Hillary in shackles, but not both."
I contend that is the guilty go free, I don't care how many more tax cuts Facebook, Google, and Amazon receive.
My observation, again, and advice - put "The Plan" into second gear. Yesterday.
I disagree with your premise first that q has promised x or y on this date or that date when we all know the first thing a troll does is attribute what an anon assumed q meant as ‘proof’ q was wrong.
Second I would recheck your info that “nothing happened” in April
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/apr/29/kim-jong-un-says-hell-give-nuclear-weapons-if-us-p/
Kim Jong-un says he’ll give up nukes if U.S. promises not to attack
By Kim Tong-Hyung - Associated Press - Sunday, April 29, 2018
And lastly your premise that the same media that has lied to us about every single thing they have ever said about Trump is somehow giving you
an accurate account of Trump’s accomplishments is ridiculous.
We know both plans the DS is trying to run out the clock hoping they win the midterms while trump is working on dismantling them.
So while some can sit around and listen to the mordern day toyko rose media tell us we’re losing and buy into it. I ignore that BS
SkyPilot: We reassessed what how we were operating. The crews and others gave honest feedback. We talked.
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I believe you are implying that honest feedback is needed when things aren’t working, and so you are bringing us the opinion of a prominent FReeper whose access to insider knowledge you feel is more appropriate to our efforts. What’s more, he has been right about an unknown number of unnamed issues in the past. How are we to use this FReeper’s anonymously sourced knowledge to improve our operations? (you see my perspective?)
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Skypilot: I don’t see things going great right now.
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Yes. I addressed that before. We continue to disagree on the criteria for success and the need to pursue it without turning back when some people are saying, “things aren’t going great right now.”
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Skypilot: But even Q has said on several occasions that:
-timelines needed to be move up
President Trump has ordered changes in course
-the Q team realized they had to go more on the offensive
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These are all realistic actions in anticipation or response to dynamic battlefield conditions. I thought you would approve of these - it would be inconceivable to stick to a plan regardless of the enemies’ changing strategies and tactics or new opportunities.
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Skypilot: What do we keep saying around here? That our job is inform the public that is not awake, correct?
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Yes. My concern is that you seem to be inclined to tell the public that we need to start giving urgent advice to President Trump and obtaining our intel from a prominent FReeper. Or are you advocating that we protest to get Trump to do as we feel best?
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SKypilot: Thousands of Patriots have been doing just this. Now, we all know there is progress, but in order to really accomplish this, the Deep State battle must be joined and engaged.
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Ah. So we disagree on criteria again. Seeing Q logos turning up in parade floats, Helsinki and Barcelona made me think that word is spreading.
And we disagree as to whether the Deep State battle has been joined and engaged. I view successes like wresting control of North Korea away from the Deep State to stop that nation from nuking the US; surely you don’t think that didn’t require engagement? The Deep State didn’t just let us have NK; we had to have put the blood of patriots on the line along with other assets to win it. Shooting down the Hawaii missile is another example of engagement. How much more engaged can you get than risking the blood of patriots and defeating launched missiles?
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Skypilot: My guess is “The Plan” calls for delays and stagnation to actually make moves that the public will notice, and that we are purposely delaying going into open war with the Deep State because they want to play politics with the mid-term elections and “time it” well.
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So those are my choices? I can chose between your guess and Q drops? Can the Prominent FReeper up the ante with a theory or hunch? Yes, I’m kidding but I’m also serious.
Your initial post on this thread seems intended to rally FReeQs to your cause; you must have known I would look at the evidence you bring to support your rallying cry.
You are asking us to work against Trump’s timing (and give him strategic advice) after his strategy has already gained us so much. Further, you ask us to do so on the basis of outsider, unverified concerns and opinions. The FReepers’ sources whom you mention do not know Trump’s plan - less than 10 people know it and they would not spread it around the Internet.
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Skypilot: It’s almost impossible to convert friends, family, and co-workers to “The Plan” when we over promise ....
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Agreed. I think non-combatants have a hard time adjusting their expectations to battlefield realities, so I think red-pilling them gently with information about radical changes in Saudi Arabia, North Korea and Russia; massive upheaval of societys pillars of industry; economic reversal of fortune (for the good); indications of our military in harms way; unprecedented levels of legal activity (e.g., pedo arrests, sealed indictments, RICO); and a societal sea change in relation to the Mockingbird Media is probably best.
Personally I found that creepy video showing ALL the Mockingbird Media juxtaposed on one page, all saying the exact same words with the exact same cadence (4 am talking points) quite eye-opening. I’m also a big fan of parts 1 and 2 of Kevin Shipp’s CIA videos - those completely changed my view of how our government works.
There’s plenty for the public to learn (and grieve) without leading them to predict events.
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Skypilot: One prominent Freeper, who has been right in the past and has insider sources throughout government, is indicating that “You can have Trump’s agenda, or Hillary in shackles, but not both.”
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Lots of prominent people on both sides of the aisle are saying so many things. Having witnessed Q’s accuracy level over the past 9 months, Trump’s success over that time, and Trump’s acknowledgements of Q (and QProofs) I’ll keep stocking popcorn and voicing my support for “The Plan.”
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Skypilot: I contend that is the guilty go free, I don’t care how many more tax cuts Facebook, Google, and Amazon receive.
My observation, again, and advice - put “The Plan” into second gear. Yesterday
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I don’t believe that the guilty go free and I don’t feel qualified to issue advice to President Trump and his Q Team. I still contend that the suggestions for faster action I’ve read come from people who dont have access to the knowledge or resources theyd need to devise a winning plan, much less one superior to the plan in play.
Brother, I find it very comforting that you and I will always agree that we can also support the fight to defeat the evil Swamp with prayer. Prayers up for the safety and success of our POTUS, our military, and our nation.
All well and good, Sky. And yes. I do know you and that you aren't a troll.
But your dangerous flight experience is not the same as this. Yes, you talked, and it was necessary. I bet you didn't talk to the Germans as they were bombing Pearl Harbor. See the diff?
This is an information war whose targets are both the enemy, ourselves, and the sleepers. They all read every word we write and feed off of every one. For good or for bad. I try my best to only feed out good bird-seed if I can. See what I mean?
I will discuss openly information in the furtherance of understanding and truth. But I will NOT discuss openly any doubts I may have (and often do, I'm not a zealot) as to the overall "plan" and timetable of that plan. And I will not deem to know that what I can not possibly know.
Trust implies trust. We are asked to trust by somebody I believe to be legitimate. When I cease to believe, I will cease to trust, or when that trusted source tells me different. Question, always, of course. I am also no sheep.
But in this I ask you, as a well respected and long term contributor to the Qanon movement, to keep your doubts and potentially movement-killing commentary to yourself or in private.
Maybe I'm way out of line in asking and obviously have no way of stopping you. It's just a helpful suggestion and my way of doing what I can in supporting the proposition and success of Trump's Q.
p.s. I don't doubt your patriotism in the least, goodman. Don't be umbraged.
Bagster