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To: gandalftb
I have no general opposition to states splitting into more states. But forming another country is just not right.

Your family objected to slavery protection laws. Your family resented the notion of having to live under an immoral law.

I resent having to live under immoral abortion and homosexual laws. I also resent having to live under a system where people who do not pay into the treasury have an equal say with those of us who do.

It is impossible to fix these things with the Democratic process, so what course is left to conscientious objectors of immoral laws?

79 posted on 07/05/2018 11:53:48 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Well, my family, two branches, started shooting.

I don’t recommend that approach, but given the time and circumstances I likely would have been right there with them.

I strongly oppose abortion because it’s murder, but going to jail is not practical.

Abortion has become a political litmus test and is one of the most effective ways that both sides have to raise money.

So the fight goes to the courts and elections.

Any government is a beauty contest, majority rule, minority rights.

We can only struggle through the available Constitutional processes and stay free ourselves.

I’ve helped some community groups incorporate into new cities.

Guess what, the city councils that started out with well-meaning activists and soon got packed with realtors and lawyers.

Self-determination only lasts so long.


80 posted on 07/05/2018 1:41:36 PM PDT by gandalftb
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