Posted on 07/04/2018 6:19:14 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
A glorious 4th of July for the Union cause. General Lee's Army of Northern Virginia begins it retreat from Pennsylvania after having been defeated by General Meade's Army of the Potomac at the Battle of Gettysburg. General Grant accepts the surrender of the City of Vicksburg from General Pemberton. About 32,000 Confederate soldiers stack their weapons and are paroled by the Union forces. This is the second Confederate Army to surrender to Grant. The Union now controls the Mississippi river and the Confederate state is split into two parts.
Makes me want to read “The Killer Angels” all over again!
For all the hype about Gettysburg being the high tide of the Confederacy, the capture of Vicksburg was the killing blow.
At that point it was only a matter of time, regardless of what Lee did.
Let's celebrate by publicly reading the first two million pages of the Federal Register and tearing down the monument of the slave owner George Washington.
There is no longer a place in America for southerners.
Yankee bastids.
Spoken like a committed anti-American. WTH are you doing here with the patriots?
For 81 years after the July 4, 1863, surrender of Vicksburg the city did not celebrate Independence Day. The surrender of Vicksburg by Confederate General John C. Pemberton to Union General Ulysses S. Grant was not a cause for celebration for the fallen city. The 47-day siege of the city had left the citizens exhausted and humiliated. During the siege, the city was bombarded every day. By the end, the starving population of the city had been reduced to eating mules, dogs, cats and even rats.
http://www.visitvicksburg.com/vicksburg-independence-day
If that’s what you want to do, go ahead.
Because I don't like the over-reach of the two million page Federal Register you consider me anti-American?
That's why I consider you anti-American.
Please take Jeff Sessions with you when you leave.
After you re-read “The Killer Angles”, you may want to tackle Jeff Shaara’s 4 book series on the war in the West.
“A blaze of Glory” about Shiloh, “A Chain of Thunder” about the Siege of Vicksburg, “The Smoke at Dawn” about Chattanooga and Lookout Mountain, and the last book of the series “The Faithful Lightning”. This covers Sherman’s March through Georgia and the Carolina Campaign. His writings are in the same style as his fathers. All are very good reads if you like Historical novels.
AKA “The Winners”
Thanks
I tried to get into “Gods & Generals” but I’m afraid the son was not as good as the old man. Perhaps I was too judgmental though. I’m willing to give it another go though.
So it wasn't my lack of enthusiasm for the two million page Federal Register in post 5 but rather something previously imagined for which you are nursing a one-way grudge?
Perhaps there is still common ground. Let's salute on this day the principles written of by the great southerner Thomas Jefferson: "That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed . . ."
G & G never really did anything for me.
There were no winners.
“If that’s what you want to do, go ahead.”
One person explained it this way: “Irony is most commonly found in words used to express a meaning that is the exact opposite of what is being said, for example “oh, great” when something bad happens. In conversation, irony give shades of hidden deeper meaning to jokes, puns, and clever arguments, to purposely contradict the meaning intended by a statement, as part and parcel of the process of expressing it.”
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