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To: Defiant
If Q was referencing military justice, perhaps the following is appropriate.

FIRING SQUAD: The method is often the supreme punishment or disciplinary means employed by military courts for crimes such as cowardice, desertion, espionage, murder, mutiny, or treason.

1,286 posted on 07/01/2018 8:35:41 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: SERKIT

I’m not particular on the method.

In the Revolution, they hung spies (Nathan Hale and the British guy we caught) because it was considered a dishonorable way to die. Firing squads were for those who were to be executed with honor, like regular deserters.


1,306 posted on 07/01/2018 9:21:11 PM PDT by Defiant (I may be deplorable, but I'm not getting in that basket.)
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To: SERKIT; Travis McGee; All
If Q was referencing military justice, perhaps the following is appropriate.

FIRING SQUAD: The method is often the supreme punishment or disciplinary means employed by military courts for crimes such as cowardice, desertion, espionage, murder, mutiny, or treason.

I reviewed in some detail in post 1489 the protocols in place for execution under both Federal statute as well as the most recent example of the rare occurrence of execution following military tribunal, which was during WW2.

It seems most likely in either case that the perps would get lethal injection. But there is some outside chance for another method.

I did not examine the military court martial method. A court martial, as you have suggested, is the method used under the military code to try members of our own military, who are bound to obey different laws than civilians.

It's also different than a "military tribunal" also sometimes called a "military commission", which is an unusual process ususally used to try enemy combatants acting as spies. This I did examine, because it's been suggested by Q and his interpreters that this how Trump intends to deal many of the 30,000 people under sealed indictment. (Obviously that his a highly speculative theory, mostly revealed by Q, aka "The Plan")

The George W. Bush administration's plan was to try the people held at Gitmo using military tribunals, but not much has come of that. That suggests that, at a minimum, any future ones would have to be handled very differently than the botched prosecutions at Gitmo, which has yeilded few convictions and allowed the mastermind of 9/11, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, to avoid trial, much less execution.


Despite being on video-tape cutting off the head of American reporter Danny Pearl, as well as many recorded confessions for other crimes, including planning 9/11, KSM is still relaxin' at Gitmo. This suggests that Military Commissions, as presently constituted, are completeley ineffective in dispensing justice.

What I did not cover in my previous post was simple Court Martial for US Military service members, that you've brought up. So, let's take a close look at it to see if it might provide a method for an execution by firing squad or hanging, as many prefer for traitors.

First off the basics: Is the D.P. available to the US Military at all?

YES! Yes, it is, thanks to President Ronald Reagan.

The U.S. Armed Forces Court of Appeals ruled in 1983 that the military death penalty was unconstitutional, and after new standards intended to rectify the Armed Forces Court of Appeals' objections, the military death penalty was reinstated by an executive order of President Ronald Reagan the following year.[1]

OK, so has it been used recently?

On 28 July 2008, President George W. Bush approved the execution of Former United States Army Private Ronald A. Gray, who had been convicted in April 1988 of multiple murders and rapes. A month later, Secretary of the Army Pete Geren set an execution date of 10 December 2008 and ordered that Gray be put to death by lethal injection at the Federal Correctional Complex, Terre Haute. The military publicly released Gray's execution date on 20 November 2008. On 26 November, however, Gray was granted a stay of execution by federal judge Rogers.[2] In December 2016, a Kansas federal judge lifted Gray's stay, moving Gray one step closer to becoming the U.S. military's first death sentence carried out since 1961.[3]

The U.S. Military currently has five inmates on death row, the most recent being Nidal Hasan, who murdered 13 people and injured 32 others during the 2009 Fort Hood mass shooting.[citation needed]

So, no. The US Military appears completely unable to execute anyone via court martial. The U.S. military can not even complete a trial of the obviously guilty traitor-terrorists Nidal Hasan.


Despite being charged in a Court Martial in November 2009 with 13 counts of premeditated murder, and the copious amounts of evidence proving both his self-evident guilt and jihadi motivation, Hasan is relaxin' at the Bell County Jail, in Belton, Texas for 9 years awaiting trial.

The military is a very weak player in delivering justice, much less executions. As mentioned above Ronald Grey was convicted and sentenced to execution in 1988.


Despite the fact that Gray was convicted and ordered condemned in military court in 1988 for two murders and three rapes in the Fayetteville, North Carolina, area while stationed at Fort Bragg, he's been relaxin' at Fort Leavenworth'for 30 years awaiting execution!

That the military, which has been spectacularly ineffective in prosecuting these serious criminals, including mass murdering terrorists, whether they are enemy combatant or their own members, can not be disputed.

The idea put forward by Q-anon and his interpreters is that this completely ineffective group wil soon be handed hundreds, thousands or tens of thousands of cases and deal with them effectively is another strange theory that we are asked to accept on faith. ie: "Trust the Plan".

It would certainly represent a complete about-face in the efficiency of the U.S. military in delivering justice, and a much needed and appreciated one.

In fact for the less ambitious among us the trial and conviction of Hasan and the executions of the terrorists Hasan and Khalid Sheikh Mohammedand, as well as the rapist and murderer Ronald Grey would be a welcome first step.

1,525 posted on 07/02/2018 1:19:01 PM PDT by Jack Black
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