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To: philman_36
To answer you more directly...we're still a Constitutional Republic as the Constitution still exists, (doesn't it?) and it's still the law of the land (isn't it?).

No, I don't think we are still a Constitutional Republic, I think we are a post-Constitutional Republic. The Constitution is too routinely ignored by all levels of government to really be the "law of the land". The "law of the land" is whatever the Supreme Court says it is, what ever politicians can smash through, increasingly what administrative functionaries say it is.

I don't like that, at all, and I've argued against us treating it that way, but still, it seems to me that it's just inaccurate to claim it's still the highest law at this late date. Theoretically: yes. Practically: no.

I am sure you can cite the list of obnoxious violations to it as well as I can: Gay Marriage, Obamacare (reallly? seriously? where does it say "oh yeah, the Fed Gov can set up a retirement system and make everyone contribute to it).

So, that's why I say we have a post-constitutional behemoth.

This whole Deep State thing that Q is exposing is really proof of that.

If the people are able to wrest control of the Government back, roll back all (or most, or even a bunch of) the unconstititonal GUNK that has attached itself to the once glorious Republic -- then, I'd have to say I was wrong and the Constitution was stronger than the Usurpers.

But, even taking Q into consideration, I don't see much sign of that.

For instance: ending Social Security, ending Medicaid, ending Medicare, ending federal welfare programs, returning to a non-standing Army, etc.

Or, alternately passing Constitutional Amendments for all these accretions.

But, honestly, looking at where we are the entire government has totally ignored the Constitution for almost 90 years.

Russia and China have both had very nice sounding Constitutions throughout their period of Communist rule, but I would not credit them with being "Constitutional Republics".

The next atrocity against the Constitution will be invalidating the Electoral College without amending the Constitution to eliminate it. That process is well underway. National Popular Vote

1,424 posted on 06/24/2018 1:27:40 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black
No, I don't think we are still a Constitutional Republic, I think we are a post-Constitutional Republic.

You can think what you want, but it doesn't alter reality which is that the Constitution is still preeminent despite how far we've moved from the FF intent.
The mission of Americans should be to return to a more concise following of the original.
Repeal 16th and 17th, eliminate unconstitutional agencies, judicial activism, limiting the role of the Fed...
Yeah, we both know where it's gone wrong, but for you to deny that we're a Constitutional Republic...I'll call anybody out on it until the Constitution is gone.
Returning to its base precepts is the best hope America has...IMO.

1,427 posted on 06/24/2018 1:45:31 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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