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To: al_c
Captain Marvel has been a woman for a while. The original Captain Marvel became Shazam

Exactly. It's....complicated.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-captain-marvel-ms-marvel-shazam-clusterf-ck-explai-1251423862

Fawcett, publishers of the original Captain Marvel/Shazam comics, stopped making them in the ‘50s. In the ‘60s, Marvel Comics trademarked the name Captain Marvel for their own Kree alien superhero, which meant when DC licensed the Fawcett characters in 1972, they had the Fawcett character named Captain Marvel, but couldn’t call the comic Captain Marvel, so they used his transformation cry “Shazam!” for the title.

This extended to other media as well — DC could not promote the character as Captain Marvel anywhere, even though the character’s named was Captain Marvel. So when Billy Batson made his TV debut in 1974, his show was titled Shazam (okay, The Shazam/Isis Hour, but you get the point).

That’s 40+ years of marketing the character as Shazam, and that’s how he’s known to pretty much everybody. Hell, even DC finally gave up when they did the New 52 and finally just renamed the character Shazam, just to cut down on the confusion, and I think it was a smart move. Point is, if even DC calls him Shazam now, he’s Shazam. This battle is lost.

Which brings us to Marvel’s Carol Danvers, and whether she should be called Ms. Marvel or Captain Marvel in her movie debut. I have to go with Captain, because 1) that’s her name now, 2) she was originally named Ms. Marvel to differentiate her from the original Kree Captain Marvel and the Kree Captain Marvel isn’t part of the cinematic universe, and 3) calling her “Ms.” just seems kind of condescending. I mean, it was standard procedure when the character was introduced in 1968, and then the name stuck. But to introduce Carol Danvers to the cinematic universe in 2015 or later and then for everyone to call her Ms. Marvel just seems weird to me, for all the reasons above. Calling her Captain Marvel in the comics was a long time coming, but it was overdue, and there’s no reason to start her out as Ms. in the movies.

39 posted on 05/18/2018 2:11:05 PM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.")
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To: Simon Green

You saved me the effort.

(I had Captain Marvel #1 by Gene Colan in my collection.)


43 posted on 05/18/2018 5:01:23 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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