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To: DoodleDawg; DiogenesLamp; OIFVeteran; Bull Snipe; HandyDandy; BroJoeK

“Since the federal government creates states then does that make them the super parent?”

States create other states. It was the states set up the procedure found in the Constitution that they (the states) created:

“New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.”

The states unambiguously specified that new states would only be created when the people’s representatives in Congress voted to do so.

Without an affirmative vote by Senators and Representatives - elected at the state level - no new states can be created by the “federal government.”

Can you think of a single exception where a state was created by federal bayonets?


1,204 posted on 06/14/2018 6:52:23 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem
“New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.”

I guess this was ignored in the case of West Virginia.

1,205 posted on 06/14/2018 6:53:55 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: jeffersondem
States create other states. It was the states set up the procedure found in the Constitution that they (the states) created

States, as expressed through a vote in both houses of Congress. And isn't Congress a branch of the federal government?

Without an affirmative vote by Senators and Representatives - elected at the state level - no new states can be created by the “federal government.”

By the same token, if every state legislature voted to allow a territory to join the union then those actions would be meaningless, wouldn't they? Isn't it true that if the people of the territory vote to become a state, nothing happens? So it's still the federal government, i.e. congress, that creates the states, right?

1,207 posted on 06/14/2018 7:07:18 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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