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To: DoodleDawg; DiogenesLamp; BroJoeK; OIFVeteran; HandyDandy; Bull Snipe
“Doesn't any rule of law require payment first and then possession? How can taking first and negotiating and paying later be legal?”

No.

If the seven children of the parents’ estate can't agree to sell part of the farm for the Interstate Highway System, the government condemns the property, builds the road, and sends the children a check.

If the children do not like the payment amount, they can go to court.

But the Sovereign can condemn property when the other party does not act in good faith. Lincoln refused to even talk with Confederate representatives and then resorted to trickery.

1,202 posted on 06/14/2018 6:18:07 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem
No.

Really?

If the seven children of the parents’ estate can't agree to sell part of the farm for the Interstate Highway System, the government condemns the property, builds the road, and sends the children a check.

Isn't the actual process 1) Government condemns the property, 2) government sends check for what it calculates is just compensation, and 3) government builds the road? If I were to buy your house is the proper order 1) I say I want your house, 2) you give me your house, and 3) I pay you for it?

But the Sovereign can condemn property when the other party does not act in good faith. Lincoln refused to even talk with Confederate representatives and then resorted to trickery.

If states can condemn and seize federal property without payment or without the agreement of the federal government, then can the federal government condemn and seize a state's property without payment and without agreement of the state? What clause of the Constitution supports such an idea?

1,203 posted on 06/14/2018 6:37:03 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: jeffersondem

He couldn’t talk to them. He said the same thing that Buchanan said to the delegates from South Carolina that came to see him. They would have to talk to Congress first, because until Congress passed a law to change the status of South Carolina as a state there was nothing that he could talk about. Both Buchanan and Lincoln stated that they had no constitutional authority to declare a state out of the union. But they did have the constitutional authority to declare a state(s) in rebellion.


1,211 posted on 06/14/2018 12:02:27 PM PDT by OIFVeteran
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