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Oklahoma man, 57, dies after rattlesnake bites him twice: 'Don't mess with snakes'
Fox News ^ | 5/1/2018 | Madeline Farber

Posted on 05/02/2018 4:09:38 PM PDT by I Drive Too Fast

A 57-year-old man in Oklahoma is dead after being bitten by a rattlesnake, his wife said. Barry Lester was driving in Osage County on Sunday when he saw the snake in the middle of the road and decided to stop and move it out of the way, the Tulsa World reported. But during the attempt the rattler bit him — twice. “It bit his left hand, and then he put it in his right and it bit that hand too,” Lester's wife, Roberta, told the newspaper. The couple was traveling to Keystone Lake when the incident occured. “We were just going to walk and have a day outside enjoying the lake. It was his birthday,” she said. After realizing he was bit, Barry told his wife they needed to go to the hospital. The couple rushed to meet the ambulance at their Turley home, which would then take Lester to a hospital in nearby Tulsa. But then Lester's head suddenly dropped — and "that was it," Roberta said. Emergency officials tried to revive the 57-year-old but it was too late. Barry died from a “combination of the rattlesnake bite and an existing heart condition," according to the Tulsa World. Barry had wrangled snakes before, Roberta told the Tulsa World, which is why he was confident he would be able to remove the rattler from the road. But now his wife has a warning for others: "Don’t mess with snakes. If you hear it rattling, you leave it alone.”

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To: I Drive Too Fast
"Don’t mess with snakes. If you hear it rattling, you leave it alone.”

If you need that warning, you probably deserve to get bitten.

Seriously, who with half a brain would try to lift a snake?

161 posted on 05/02/2018 9:04:13 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: UCANSEE2

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What good would that do?

If the venom is in my muscle, why would I waste the effort to take revenge on the snake?

High voltage current deconstructs the venom very effectively if done within seconds. The longer you wait, the less effective it will be, and if you panic, it is worse.
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162 posted on 05/02/2018 9:06:28 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Mom MD

That’s cool but what do you use your gum for when its handy?


163 posted on 05/02/2018 9:06:59 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (Tag, you're it.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Of course. We all bow to your expertise. Carry on!


164 posted on 05/02/2018 9:08:04 PM PDT by Mom MD ( .)
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To: CJ Wolf

shooting at typos? Gum is highly effective for that. Little known fact...
;-/


165 posted on 05/02/2018 9:09:30 PM PDT by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Mom MD

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How did you ever find your way here?

You feed us leftist tripe like it was God’s truth, and then respond with snark when called on it.

Ourside of math and engineering, universities are propaganda organs.

Unfounded opinion is “science” to this club.
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166 posted on 05/02/2018 9:15:16 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Mom MD

“Have it your way. You know it all anyway. I’m just glad I don’t have to go hiking with you.”

That’s your takeaway? (By the way, the post you responded to is NOT to you.)

I SAID I WOULD DEFER TO MEDICAL EXPERTS IF PRESENT.

But that is apparently not good enough for you. It’s this sort of brain dead approach to life that leads to unnecessary accidents in the first place.
Glad you’re not my MD. I prefer doctors who read and think rather than have know-it-all knee-jerk reactions.

My father had a heart condition for which a heart specialist / surgeon (with a great reputation) said needed an immediate bypass surgery. He decided to get a second opinion, and the doctor pretty much became irate with him. Your attitude reminds me of that doctor. My father never had the surgery and lived decades with no medical issues. His heart improved with nothing more than rest, exercise, and a change of diet which my mom enforced.

I have an in-law who was prescribed low blood pressure medicine at 21 years of age. I asked him for details. He went in to the doctor for a bad cough. He had high blood pressure. He had been having high readings every time he went to the doctor. I asked him a few questions and did a little armchair research. Come to find out he had taken a decongestant before the doctor and she did not even ask if he had done so. So, at 21 years of age, she is ready to put him on life-altering medication. I had him monitor his blood pressure for a few days. Turns out doctors make him nervous and this was the cause of his high readings. Whenever he checked at home it was normal. He even did not need to make drastic changes to his sodium intake. Just bad medical advice.

I have had similar experiences with doctors who were baffled by an issue even though the doctors were thoroughly trained and experts in the area in question. And I’ve personally found that going to another doctor sometimes solved the problem easily because the second doctor had encountered the issue before. One such case I went to the first doctor several times before finally trying another. And the solution turned out to be extremely simple.

I’m not against doctors. But I am against doctors who think that their isolated experiences and training are the end all to medical science. If that’s the case they should start offering a money-back guarantee. Only pay if you’re cured. Doctors are professional consultants, not dictators. I hire doctors to supplement my own knowledge and awareness of my own health, not do a two-minute assessment and make life-determining decisions for me which I am supposedly too uneducated to understand, and I am just expected to take their word for it and do exactly everything they dictate.

“I have treated many snake bites.”

Good for you. I would certainly defer to your expertise if you were present and I or a family member were bitten. Just like I already said.

“The gentleman in question died due to an underlying heart condition.”

That could be anyone. Fear kills people also. It causes people to panic and make stupid decisions. The man’s fear might have had just as much to do with his heart failure as the venom. In any case, some people have been helped or at least come out of a venomous snake bite safely as the result of using the shock approach. Perhaps it does nothing and these people would have not been harmed anyway. Perhaps it only works with some specific types of venom. Perhaps it is purely a placebo, but if a placebo saves someone’s life because it calms them down and makes them think everything is going to be OK, then that’s also a good thing.

“If you choose to use an ineffective and likely harmful procedure that is up to you but time would be better spent seeking medical care.”

Something that takes 2 minutes and has very little downside in a scenario where the nearest help is 2 hours away I think is worth the risk. You are entitled to disagree and make blanket judgements about every scenario, and I am entitled to my opinion as well.

“Even if the bite is envenomnated you have hours not minutes to seek help and there are satellite devices that are inexpensive and can summon help even in the most remote areas. I would invest in one of those rather than a taser. And in the wilderness I carry a real gun that can help with 2 and 4 legged predators not a taser....”

There is no reason you can’t have all three.


167 posted on 05/02/2018 9:18:30 PM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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To: UCANSEE2

“This probably won’t surprise you, but I have intentionally electrocuted myself hundreds of times.”

LOL. I have to ask what this was to accomplish.


168 posted on 05/02/2018 9:20:15 PM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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To: editor-surveyor

“That statement will cost lives! Stun guns work well if used immediately.”

Real-world experience means nothing to someone buried deeply in well-supported theory.


169 posted on 05/02/2018 9:21:38 PM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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To: hadaclueonce; All

Granted road rage has always been part of driving on Texas highways. Texans are sensitive and it doesn’t take much to provoke us. At every entry point into Texas there is a sign to remind people to “Drive Friendly...”. And we do until something or someone pi$$es us off.

When turtles remind us of Sen. McConnell and snakes remind us of Washington D.C. lawyers and politicians, it presents an opportunity to express our pent up hostilities while driving the “beast” back and forth to work or play.

All to say, a lot of Texans would like the opportunity to kick McConnell’s a$$ and many would go out of their way to run over some lawyers and politicians even if they have to make a Mexican lane change or two. Check the scene for skid marks. Missing skid marks indicate that road rage was the most likely culprit.

BTW, if you’re moving to rural Texas, ditch those out-of-state tags and Pro-Hillary stickers as soon as you get here. If you’re moving to one of our larger metropolitan areas, that may not be necessary at all. But to play safe, get a pair of cowboy boots and a pickup truck if you want to blend in and keep up appearances.

And if your down from Oklahoma, please do not feed or handle the snakes sunning themselves on our highways. Just run over them like the natives.

It would also help if you can distinguish a pile of horsesh*t from a turtle in the middle of the road. At speeds above 80 mph, granted they all look the same.
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170 posted on 05/02/2018 9:44:55 PM PDT by Texicanus (GOD Bless Texas and the USA)
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To: DesertRhino

Instead do the “X” incision with your knife at both punctures and suck out the poison. Right?


171 posted on 05/02/2018 9:47:55 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Texicanus

I do believe a Tennessee License is welcome everywhere in Texas. :^)


172 posted on 05/02/2018 9:48:52 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: mylife

How exactly does a rattler pee on a creosote bush? Does he stand up?


173 posted on 05/02/2018 9:49:34 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: eyedigress

Yes, a Tennessee plate is welcome as are many of the red state plates.

If you reside in a red state, you probably are not moving to Texas. We watch for blue staters that are moving to Texas wondering if they are here to change our traditions and values or to become one of us.


174 posted on 05/02/2018 10:01:15 PM PDT by Texicanus (GOD Bless Texas and the USA)
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To: eyedigress

Yes, a Tennessee plate is welcome as are many of the red state plates.

If you reside in a red state, you probably are not moving to Texas. We watch for blue staters that are moving to Texas wondering if they are here to change our traditions and values or to become one of us.


175 posted on 05/02/2018 10:01:56 PM PDT by Texicanus (GOD Bless Texas and the USA)
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To: Texicanus

I worked with many Texans in Arizona and it was a hoot!

Tennessee guy here. Mutual respect with the history and all.

:^)


176 posted on 05/02/2018 10:03:54 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Probably about the same way a Bobcat does this.....




177 posted on 05/02/2018 10:08:17 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: eyedigress

FYI My ancestors came from Tennessee to Texas about the time of Texas independence. So Tennesseans are all right with me.


178 posted on 05/02/2018 10:12:19 PM PDT by Texicanus (GOD Bless Texas and the USA)
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To: Texicanus

There will always be a bond with TN and TX.

Houston wasn’t named for nothing!!

His schoolhouse is in Rockford,TN and they keep it maintained.


179 posted on 05/02/2018 10:24:19 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: Clutch Martin

I live out in the countryside and have rattlesnakes. I leave them alone unless near my home. They can kill my dogs. Just use a long hoe. They will strike the hoe and briefly be on the ground with their body extended. You then chop their head off.

ps
All water moccasins need to die. They are curious and aggressive.


180 posted on 05/02/2018 10:25:29 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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