3 U.S. Marines booked with rape in case involving Tulane student

http://www.nola.com/ ^ | 4/27/18 | Diana Samuels

[Georgia Girl 2]

Don’t get drunk out of your mind and invite marines home to your crib unless you want to partay! Sorry ladies but that’s kind of the way it goes.

[Blue House Sue]

We will see what the Orleans Parish jury decides.

[Flaming Conservative]

People who are falling down drunk may not be in the position to give legal consent; they’re considered impaired. Unless they’re call girls, (and even call girls can change their minds and say “no”) they may well have a case. The surveillance footage may just sink those guys. I have a lot of respect for those who serve in the military, but they’re not all innocent. Only those involved know if they are guilty as charged, but even if not, they sure are guilty of being stupid. Just ask Bill Cosby.

[Flaming Conservative]

Best post today!

[af_vet_1981]

It should be the same for drunken sex.

Being in favor of rape because the woman is drunk is depraved.

[af_vet_1981]

In my book, that just makes you easy.

Rapists do tend to view women as prey. It would not surprise me they prefer their prey easy.

[PapaBear3625]

Being in favor of rape because the woman is drunk is depraved.

Considering sex with a woman who has had a few drinks to be rape is a relatively recent idea. I'm not talking about "passed out unconscious drunk" sex. I'm talking about "had a few drinks and she's eager to go" sex.

[PapaBear3625]

lets see, drunk slutty marines go to bars and slip drugs into girls drinks and then take them home and rape them, and invite other men to do the same...

Was there any actual evidence that anybody slipped drugs into the women's drinks?

[af_vet_1981]

Considering sex with a woman who has had a few drinks to be rape is a relatively recent idea. I'm not talking about "passed out unconscious drunk" sex. I'm talking about "had a few drinks and she's eager to go" sex.

Are you down with slipping a pill into her drink so she's eager to go?

[PapaBear3625]

Are you down with slipping a pill into her drink so she's eager to go?

Nowhere in the article do I see any indication that any of the men drugged any woman. Obviously, secretly drugging a woman is in the classic criminal definition of rape.

On the other hand, she should shoulder some responsibility for what she chooses to do to herself. My attitude (check out my prior posts up-thread) is that it's a bad idea to get drunk, or otherwise deliberately render yourself incapable of acting with good judgement. Do you disagree?

[af_vet_1981]

.. check out my prior posts up-thread ...

I did; they resemble the darker side of Islam or some other predatory belief system; utterly repugnant.

[PapaBear3625]

OK, let me summarize for you. The current approach of trying to get drunken men to not have drunken sex with drunken women is not working, and will not work.

As a father, I’ve decided that it makes more sense to tell my daughters “Don’t do stupid stuff. Don’t get drunk in bars.” than to engage in a futile quest to try to ensure that drunk men won’t take advantage. A girl who engages in drunk sex with a guy, and then in the morning decides it was a bad decision, is not helped by telling her “You poor dear. He took advantage of you! We will punish him for you!”, because that means she will do it again.

Conversely, telling her “You idiot! Did you really think that getting soused among strangers in a bar was going to have a fairy-tale happy ending? Don’t do stupid stuff like that!” might have the effect of getting her to not keep doing stupid stuff. It might save her from drunkenly going home with a serial killer.

Yes, it should, in theory, be safe for a girl to get falling down drunk in a bar full of strangers. Just like it should be safe for her pull over in her car on Martin Luther King Blvd to withdraw a few hundred bucks from an ATM at 3am. But, both actions are exceptionally stupid things to do, and it doesn’t do women any favors to tell them they aren’t.

[af_vet_1981]

As a father, I’ve decided that it makes more sense to tell my daughters “Don’t do stupid stuff. Don’t get drunk in bars.”

If they do get drunk in a bar and are subsequently gang raped, the rapists will have an advocate.

[Conserv]

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