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To: blackdog
If you can manage a sink rate of 125 fpm, you’re equalling that of a high performance sailplane. Depending on altitude at which the engine failure occurs, that should give you plenty of time to sort out where to land. I don’t know what the Aztec’s effective L/D ratio would be in that scenario, however, so I don’t know how far you can fly to reach a given airfield. I’m also sure your foot on the good engine side is going to be getting mighty tired, unless you can trim it out.

As a (unfortunately non-current) sailplane pilot, I’ve always thought we should emulate the Europeans and require that pilots seeking airplane ratings first receive their glider rating. It really ingraines good judgment when every landing is a forced landing and go arounds are not an option. Sailplane pilots also learn good control coordination habits and learn how to manage their aircraft’s energy, all invaluable skills in an engine out scenario.

72 posted on 04/26/2018 9:14:14 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: noiseman

Most planes I seem drawn to have a glide ratio identical or worse than a brick. I flew a Great Lakes bi-plane for a few months to get acrobatic training and real spin recovery training, but never again care to do so. My stomach does not care for such things.


76 posted on 04/26/2018 9:31:53 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: noiseman

Altitude and 10’000 foot runways are a man’s best friend.


77 posted on 04/26/2018 9:34:40 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: noiseman
Oncoming contact at 2 o'clock.

Second seater: *What clock?

82 posted on 04/26/2018 9:48:07 AM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: noiseman
The idea of learning to fly gliders really paid off for Germany's Luftwaffe pilots during and before WWII.

After WWI Germany wasn't allowed to have an air force, and the development of aircraft was severely limited.

But, being Germans, they thought well outside the box. They formed glider clubs, which most young males really loved to fly with.

One serious glider pilot was Erich Hartman who shot down over 500, (mostly Soviet) aircraft. Another was Adolph Galland who shot down somewhere near 200 allied aircraft before he was assigned to administrative duty by Hitler.

This summer I hope to do some glider riding and hopefully dual flying.

Your remarks about the value of flying gliders are very well said.

104 posted on 04/26/2018 2:01:26 PM PDT by sciencewriter86
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