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To: bagster
"Did you not read my post?"

Actually, NO. I did not see the post you are talking about. I replied to your later post and I also replied to someone else - then you replied to me again from that post. I'll blame the fog of kabuki dancing, I suppose.

And, YES. I do agree with at least parts of your earlier post. The part that says it is the DS that wants us involved. And the likely false flag aspect.

Your personal insults are nothing but undefended Tomahawks to me. I'm a sticks and stones guy. So, no damage.

Anyway, please feel free to think of me as thick if it helps you somehow. But I'm failing to see how the mission which we theoretically accomplished was the destruction of "deep state assets within Syria". Also failing to make the Iran / cheese connection - and I'm from Wisconsin. I'm not saying you are wrong about your theory, but I could use some more details.

You seemed to be suggesting that the shuffled Russian assets are DS assets. And saying Ruskies and us coordinated - which is obvious even to a cheddar head like me. But at the same time you are suggesting Israel is provoking the commies. Do you mean you think Putin did not expect Israel to do what Israel is doing since then which is what anyone should have expected?

If we want to help Israel and hurt Iran, then why did we not take out the Iranian bits in Syria - Iran has already launched an armed drone from Syria into Israel recently. Israel is only doing exactly what we would do if in their sandals - no silly dancing, just destruction of real threats.

192 posted on 04/16/2018 10:37:13 PM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: BuddhaBrown
Your personal insults are nothing but undefended Tomahawks to me. I'm a sticks and stones guy. So, no damage.

No insults at all, goodman. Simply honest debate. I've identified your argument as naïve and your thought process as that of Obama/Clinton/Bush era thinking in regards to Middle East realpolitik.

You cannot be blamed personally for being stuck in this wrongthink. In order to see how things have changed, you must be privy to the information that Q has revealed to us.

The turning of Saudi Arabia from a Deep State asset into a REAL ally of the west and Israel, along with several of the smaller Arab states. You must believe that Russia is a covert ally, despite the bluster. You must believe, as it seems you already do, that Iran is the puppet master in Syria/ISIS and is the mortal enemy of the Saudi faction.

Then you must understand that the OLD deposed Saudi was working with the likes of McCain/Graham and the Deep State cabal to draw us into Syria, which is why certain elements (Deep State/Cair, etc) are cheering this. Of course they want more. What they will get is not what they want, however.

You must believe, like I do, that the middle east is basically a struggle between Saudi Arabia and Iran for dominance of the region.

You must also believe that Assad has been fighting the Obama/Deep State approved "Arab Spring" takeover by the bad moslems.

Looked at through that lens, then the Syria strikes make perfect sense. And now Israel is striking Iranian threats?

What else are we to make of this. Of course, this is all dependent on Russia's reaction. If they conflict with Israel, then my entire theory crumbles. But now we hear that Israel and Russia have a hotline to avoid conflicts?

The fact that Russia stood down to our strikes tells us that Iran stands alone. Who supports them now? Obama is gone. Russia stood down. Syria is not a serious player. Iran. Stands. Alone.

I was saying maybe Israel should stand down until the new alliance coalesced and not risk provoking Russia while it was in face saving mode (which they are right now). Until I was informed by another Freeper just now that Israel is coordinating with Russia to avoid conflicts. So now I have adapted my theory to approve of the Israeli actions, which are ultimately a defensive posture against Iranian threats. Again, Iran stand alone.

That is exactly how I see it.

Coming days will tell the tale. Watch Russia.

Anyway, I hope I disabused you of the thought I was making personal attacks. I attack your theory, not you. I won't take any attacks on MY theories personally. It's just business. :)

p.s. If it all falls apart and doesn't go exactly as I foretell, you may point and laugh at me.

197 posted on 04/16/2018 11:33:42 PM PDT by bagster (Even pompous jackals love their mama.)
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To: BuddhaBrown
You seemed to be suggesting that the shuffled Russian assets are DS assets.

Oh, ooops. I didn't address this one.

No. I was suggesting that the fact that Russia moved it's assets out of the target zones, suggests that the strikes were coordinated between The Donald and Pooty Poot. And is evidence that Russia "stood down" and allowed the strikes to take place. Which would suggest that Russia is no longer backing Syria to the extent that we thought they were. AND no longer backing Iran in Syria.

Which is why I say the cheese [Iran] stands alone.

Savvy?

205 posted on 04/16/2018 11:52:04 PM PDT by bagster (Even pompous jackals love their mama.)
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