[Boogieman]

Where I live, it seems like 9/10 bicyclists routinely run red lights and stop signs, and they pay no attention to oncoming traffic OR pedestrians.

[SMARTY]

I like it when they wear their ear buds and you KNOW they cannot hear traffic or anything else. STOOOOPID

[robroys woman]

Where I live, it seems like 9/10 bicyclists routinely run...stop signs, and they pay no attention to oncoming traffic OR pedestrians.

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That was me when I rode in Seattle, except I DID pay attention to oncoming traffic and pedestrians. Fact is, now in rural KY I do it in my car too. Everybody does.

Part of the problem is that there are plenty of stop signs that appear in areas where traffic is light and you can see a long ways down the road to both sides. Stopping at the stop sign is nothing more than a formality. In a car, it’s fine. It doesn’t cost you much. On a bike, it scrubs off speed that took a lot of energy to achieve and to re-achieve. If there was a “real” reason to stop, that would be different. But for a stop sign where there is OBVIOUSLY nothing to actually stop for, other than the sign, the only logical reason for stopping is that there is a cop around. The reason for the sign is that if there IS traffic approaching, on both roads, it lets everyone know who has the right of way.

And if I had my way, all stop signs would be replaced by yield signs. All of ‘em. Of course, it means the public would need to be “retrained” in the concept that the car approaching from the right at a four way intersection with no signage has the right of way.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***bicyclists routinely run red lights and stop signs, ***

Years ago in Tulsa, I was at a light on a major street during rush hour. When it turned green I proceeded forward but hit my brakes when two bicyclists zipped from the left right across the intersection. They did not even slow down.

Glad I had good brakes.