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China blames U.S. for staggering trade surplus as tariffs loom (Oh bullcrap...)
Reuters ^ | March 21, 2018 | Ben Blanchard, Brenda Goh

Posted on 03/24/2018 4:00:27 AM PDT by cba123

China is over the line.

They just agreed, they agree, they agreed...

To decrease their trade deficit with America. NEXT YEAR. By a whopping $100,000,000.

China you really, need to stop the rhetoric, and get your purchasing managers busy.

For real. NOW.

This year, is already one third done.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: america; china; trade
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China is BADLY playing America.

Once America wakes up, it's on.

1 posted on 03/24/2018 4:00:27 AM PDT by cba123
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-trade-mofcom/china-blames-u-s-for-staggering-trade-surplus-as-tariffs-loom-idUSKBN1GX3DM


2 posted on 03/24/2018 4:01:57 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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Trump will find out, as Obama did, that we have limited leverage with China as long as they hold $1 Trillion in U.S. Treasury Bonds.

They dump those bonds, making interest rates skyrocket, and all of the sudden servicing the interest on our debt becomes 2/3 of our annual budget.

Without China and the rest of the world buying our bonds, there is no deficit spending.

Here's a laugh for you: http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/china-cold-open/n12611?snl=1

3 posted on 03/24/2018 4:52:53 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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As I understand it, to address just one of the issues in that article; For Boeing to sell airplanes in China, they must build factories and BUILD the planes IN China. Of course, then, after a certain period, Boeing is out and China continues building planes, with a chinese nameplate, of course.


4 posted on 03/24/2018 4:52:54 AM PDT by Tucker39 ("It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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To: Yo-Yo

The Federal Reserve would buy up all those Chindese-held Treasurys if they were to dump them. End of story. That’s what quantitative easing was. China has no leverage owing is money. We have the leverage.


5 posted on 03/24/2018 4:55:03 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: WashingtonSource

That QE experiment is less than ten years old. We shall see how it implodes in the not too distant future, especially with all of the conservatives screaming “audit the Fed.”


6 posted on 03/24/2018 4:58:01 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Sectors with a large, direct exposure to the U.S. market, Moody’s said, included cork and wood products, furniture, office machines, household appliances, electrical equipment, road vehicles, telecommunications equipment, electrical machinery, apparel and footwear, animal oils and fats.

And what percentage of those "Chinese" exports are actual Chinese products, and what percentage are American products produced in US plants moved to China, or US brands being produced by Chinese subcontractors? And brands of other nations who've moved production to China?

Of course, Chinese companies will eventually copy all the products produced in China by whatever transnational and begin producing competing products.

7 posted on 03/24/2018 5:45:13 AM PDT by Will88
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Good post.

You get it.


8 posted on 03/24/2018 5:48:56 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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The real joke is China pretending they could dump $1 trillion in bonds and it wouldn’t affect their economy...

Yu

R

wong...


9 posted on 03/24/2018 5:52:58 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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China is BADLY playing America.

Playing America? They bought our political whores fair and square, and Turddle needs to deliver on his contract.

10 posted on 03/24/2018 6:30:45 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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eventually

That was the operative adverb 20 years ago. Eventually has eventuated and is well past it's sell-by date.

11 posted on 03/24/2018 6:32:05 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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The natural response to an across the board trade deficit is an adjustment in currency values. The dollar goes down and the Yuan goes up so US merchandise becomes cheaper and Chinese becomes more expensive. But the dollar has been artificially held up in value for a long time and when it finally drops it will be very, very bad.

I would like to know why and by whom it has been held up? Some is by the Fed but the rest of the world has to play the game of "let's pretend" on the dollar's value. Who will profit from making the future crash worse? Or does everyone expect to be dragged into the maelstrom so they do everything possible to postpone it.

12 posted on 03/24/2018 6:42:58 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (I can't tell if we live in an Erostocracy (rule by sex) or an Eristocracy (rule by strife and chaos))
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That was a very funny video clip, and it brings up a good point. It is our deficit federal and trade spending that has created the current problem.

The government spends more than it takes in, thus the 20 trillion dollar federal deficit.
Americans consume a huge amount of stuff, thus in a competitive economy, companies move overseas, so they can produce the lowest priced stuff.
Of course, Chinese do not consume as much as Americans, and they have a regulated economy, thus they do not buy as much from overseas, even though their population is 5 times bigger than the US.


13 posted on 03/24/2018 7:12:19 AM PDT by Fishing-guy
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To: Will88

No US company can 100% own a factory in China, you must have either a Chinese business partner or more commonly a government controlled company


14 posted on 03/24/2018 7:16:24 AM PDT by kaktuskid
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I hope there is some serious negotiation behind closed door right now, so the Chinese can buy more US stuff and stop stealing and forcing technology transfer.

Maybe that is why Washington threats 60 billion tariff but offers no details, and Beijing threatens a puny 3 billion tariff but does not implement.

A trade war will be VERY, VERY, VERY bad for everybody.


15 posted on 03/24/2018 7:20:07 AM PDT by Fishing-guy
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To: Yo-Yo

The Chinese owe u 1 trillion dollars plus in term of accumulated war aid and food aid we lent them from WW2 thru the 80’s(no one really talks about it but it’s true) not including any interest on said debts. They want to dump their bonds that fine but we can just say...we’ll just cancel your debts from aid we lent you and call it even!


16 posted on 03/24/2018 7:33:08 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Men and Devils can't out-"alinsksy" God! He knows where "all the bodies are buried!")
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No US company can 100% own a factory in China, you must have either a Chinese business partner or more commonly a government controlled company

Well known, and has absolutely nothing to do with my post.

17 posted on 03/24/2018 7:42:52 AM PDT by Will88
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National Trade Council Director Peter Navarro Discusses Tariff Position Against China…

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/03/23/national-trade-council-director-peter-navarro-discusses-tariff-position-against-china/


18 posted on 03/24/2018 8:01:28 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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Gordon Chang Discusses President Trump’s Plan to Remove the Panda Mask From The Chinese Red Dragon…

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/03/23/gordon-chang-discusses-president-trumps-plan-to-remove-the-panda-mask-from-the-chinese-red-dragon/


19 posted on 03/24/2018 8:04:55 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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Gordon Chang Discusses President Trump’s Plan to Remove the Panda Mask From The Chinese Red Dragon…

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/03/23/gordon-chang-discusses-president-trumps-plan-to-remove-the-panda-mask-from-the-chinese-red-dragon/


20 posted on 03/24/2018 8:04:55 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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