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To: Bodleian_Girl
Victoria, by ALL accounts, was a LOUSY, over bearing, somewhat dictatorial mother.

That you fail to understand "THE GRANDMOTHER OF EUROPE" meme, proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you are much wanting in knowing and understanding its implications AND the machinations which she, and she alone, put into motion, that showed what a true "leader" she was. And even before she started to play around with placing her own kids on various thrones, she tried, but failed to get a "fine Italian hand", vis-a-vis the marriage plans, for his son, of King Louis-Phillip of France.

I'm NOT judging anything at all by "today's standards". I'm stating historical facts.

OTOH, you are "judging" things by assumptions based on 1)not much knowledge 2) your own skewed opinions.

Hemophilia has less than nothing whatsoever to do with the topic at hand; that being whether or not Queen Victoria was a good leader, or simply a "tool" of Albert's.

86 posted on 03/17/2018 9:35:26 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

1. No one said Victoria was a tool of Alberts.

2. By diaries left behind, we know that Victoria had warmer relationships with some of her children.

3. She arranged marriages. Easy to do from ones sitting room. Akin to leading soldiers on to a battlefield? No.

4. Additionally I’ll submit that her infatuations and obsessions with younger men as she was in her dotage should be looked at in askance.

My main point here is that men are better suited for leadership. Even Victoria knew that.


93 posted on 03/17/2018 10:31:26 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Standing on the edges of a thousand burning bridges)
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