[defconw]

"This is the kind of idiot who believes "you cant go too far to one side or the other or you wrap around to the other side" and "the place to be is in the middle between the two".

When trying to educate newbs as you call them, I think the word Idiots is unhelpful. I was taught that very thing as gospel, in high school. I graduated in 1982. Yes I went to public school. That's where my parents sent me. It's not like I had a choice.

Calling people names for learning what they were taught is not helpful to the cause.

[JockoManning]

You may well be right.

Though Christ called the Pharisees white-washed tombs, vipers, sons of satan.

And here in the American Southwest, it has long been a tradition to call a spade a spade.

Seems a little hard to get beyond the basics if the basics are grossly distorted & lied about.