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To: Cboldt
GENOCIDE, WORLD ORDER, AND STATE FORMATION

Genocide and a national world order

So there is a concept "genocide" because there must be a concept "genocide". It is a necessary part of the present world order, as the regicide concept is a necessary part of monarchy. That world order is national (with a few exceptions such as the Vatican). It has four (functional) characteristics which distinguish it from other possible world orders. It is an order of coterminous states covering all land surface; it is formed by transgenerational identity communities; these have a monopoly of state formation; and they are unlimited in time and claim eternal legitimacy. This order competes with and excludes other orders, for instance theocratic universalism. Historically, the present order was intensified at the expense of possible alternative orders.

As ideology, then, nationalism supports this present world order against others. Nationalism is not a particularism, but inherently global, a universalism. The collective claims of nations relate to a global order. Most theory of the ethics of nationalism simply takes the world order as given. This applies more generally as well. For instance, in speaking of Geslechtsdifferenz:

Keine andere Differenz ist für das gesellschaftliche Schicksal einer Person von entscheiderer ...Bedeutung als die Geschlechtszugehörigkeit, keine andere Differenz trennt Menschen nachhaltiger, definitiver als diese. [3]
These words appeared in German, in the Deutsche Zeitschrift für Philosophie, published in Germany. In other words, nations are so omnipresent, that they are not even noticed. This failure to question the world order, in turn contributes to its stability.
1,697 posted on 03/10/2018 5:48:37 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
The "New" world order aims to break down the old notions of international law and law of nations - rendering those concepts obsolete, dustbin of history.

There is substantial education and other effort underway, has been for a few generations, aiming to render the notion of "nations state" obsolete. Other open manifestations (the educational material is in the wide open) are Treaty of Versailles, UN, structure of EU (radically different from US constitution), and elevation of "one person one vote" as a necessary component to freedom.

Trump nails it. Illusion of freedom. If you get to pick between two competing parties, you are free. I call BS. The founders had a darn good idea about how to limit government, and the people have lost sight of that principle.

1,702 posted on 03/10/2018 5:55:55 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: philman_36

Patriot soapbox is discussing Hitler’s Youth program and who may be connected. My first thought was Mueller and Markle.


1,728 posted on 03/10/2018 6:17:32 PM PST by hoosiermama (When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.DJT)
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