[corlorde]

Some of those guys are so chiseled, they can mess ANYONE up!

Being "chiseled" doesn't translate into fighting skill, sorry. Training, technique and physical conditioning (specifically cardio) does. When two opponents are similar in skill, then speed and strength can lend to an advantage.

[LiveFreeOrDie2001]

What you wrote, was implied...

Well, yes, of course... they looked highly trained, highly skilled, in shape & willing to mess anyone else.

Sorry I didn’t use as many words as you liked. :-/

[familyop]

"Being "chiseled" doesn't translate into fighting skill, sorry. Training, technique and physical conditioning (specifically cardio) does."

And that kind of training does not lead to becoming chiseled! Oh, no! The fastest ones with the most endurance and second nature technique look like professional wrestlers from the 1960s! 300 pounds of corn fed, high speed endurance! Better, yet, if they're geezers like me! Old goats have had even more training, technique and physical conditioning that those young whippersnappers.

;-D