Posted on 02/10/2018 9:57:05 PM PST by BenLurkin
[S]ix passengers and a pilot were on board the Papillon helicopter when it crashed about 5:20 p.m. The other four were injured and were still being treated at the scene.
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Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Allen Kenitzer said the Eurocopter EC130 crashed in unknown circumstances and sustained heavy damage.
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I rode down into the Canyon on a mule named Ollie.
lMy muscles ached for days after. I’m sure Ollie was fine.
After reading your home page ... your statement is moot.
What are you talking about?
Did you click the link in my #24 and listen ?
I responded to your post from my ping list,
which does not show links.
So what is “moot” about my profile page? Do I even want to know?
I agree, and I’ve got 30 years of air traffic control experience ( 26+ USAF and 5 FAA ).
So do I, mainly because of the way it was reported. Both pilots were trying to bypass a thunderhead and were at about 21,000 feet when the mid-air collision occurred. The reporter said it took five minutes to hit the earth and that was a long time to know that you were going to die. 128 people did so.
Artists conception: 
Which made no sense to me so I looked it up and learned it is the opening theme to 2001 a Space Odyssey, and I merely stated your announcement should have had a little more than "Thus Spake Zarathusta"
And you commenced to operate from a void and tried to put substance to that void.
Because you had no idea what I was talking about.
So I attacked your home page ... which woke you up.
Good lord. You could get War and Peace out of a bowl of alphabet soup. And thanks for mentioning my profile page.
I love visitors.
A few weeks after we got back I read a news story about a family on vaca having helicopter ride with trouble and sitting the copter down... in lava.
If I would have read that before hand NO WAY WOULD I HAVE PUT MY KIDS ON A HELICOPTER!
The weird thing is I had a fear of heights but that ride was so spectacular it didn’t bother me at all.
We also went down on a sub. Snorkeled liked crazy starting at the crack of down. Fresh shrimp. A pigeon, who we named Stumpy cuz he was missing a toe, came into our hotel room every morning to eat breakfast with us. Great vaca!
My kids said the helicopter Hawaii vacation was the best vacation ever. We were on Maui and hit Snorkel Bobs for their week long snorkeling special. We snorkeled a couple of times a day and swam with the turtles every evening. Beautiful pace outside the politics.
I fully agree with the auto-rotation. I should have used a better choice of words. In that terrain I’ll take a guess that the pilot was looking at that small gravel bar just to the right of the crash site as a possible landing site.
(Lost a very good friend in RVN when he had to go into the tree canopy when that was it. RIP brother!)
Sympathy for your loss, and I guess we’ll just have to wait for the NTSB accident report to find out.
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