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To: nanetteclaret

No, you are the one arguing. I’m simply stating two facts.

One: Q said POTUS is our savior.

Two: that is not language that I’ve ever heard any Christian use.


362 posted on 02/08/2018 11:17:52 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter; All

You really are determined to see only your own point of view aren’t you? This is why it’s not a discussion. And for what it’s worth, I am a Christian and I believe that the Lord is using Trump to clean out the cesspool of wickedness. I believe he is a military savior. So there!


363 posted on 02/08/2018 11:25:41 AM PST by nanetteclaret (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: Fantasywriter

Keep in mind that “Savior” and “savior” are not necessarily the same thing, just as “God” and “god” are fundamentally different.


367 posted on 02/08/2018 11:34:09 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: Fantasywriter

Ahhhhh. “A” is steadfast but “B” is stubborn. What a handy way to construe reality!


378 posted on 02/08/2018 12:08:29 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: Fantasywriter
Most of the better Christians I've been closest to tend to avoid such a metaphor ... most of the time. I have heard it maybe several dozen times in my life--by Christians--genuine Christians--as a metaphor. And Qx and I have heard it in psychological discussions--even by Christians--a fair amount. NO ONE involved or looking on assumed the one using the metaphor really thought XYZ meant to replace Christ as a person's savior.

Rescuing someone from breaking through the pond ice or from a burning building makes "A" the savior of "B" and may be called so. No one assumes "B" suddenly replaces Jesus with "A" as their eternal savior.

381 posted on 02/08/2018 12:12:44 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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