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The Best Movies: What the Academy SHOULD have been Awarding

Posted on 01/29/2018 6:44:31 AM PST by dangus

The Academy Awards continue to become more and more irrelevant, selecting "Best Picture" winners that are both abhorrent and terrible. Movies so unappealing that even a Best Picture award couldn't make anyone want to go see them.

But popular doesn't mean great either: spending $300 million to make a movie that makes $400 million, doesn't mean a movie was great. In fact, it probably means the movie-makers didn't take any risks that might jeopardize its enormous investment. What we get is noisy yet bland.

So what are the great movies? That's what I'm asking FReepers to vote on.

For the nominees, because I can't possibly have seen all the nominable films, I've tried to infer what movie-goers have enjoyed AND found memorable:

I've supposed that a surprise hit means that people liked the movie. Making a lot of money relative to investment is suggestive, but we also have to discount cheap movies where the investment was really devoting the roll-out space to the movie, such as horror movies, formulaic children's animation, and low-budget comedies. I've tried not to completely exclude genre-exploitation movies, like "black" movies or "Christian movies." If they've been successful enough to transcend their genres, I'll include them even though their massive profitability may be PARTLY due to low budgets.

Being a "surprise hit" also means "franchise films" with massive budgets *can* be nominated, but they really have to outperform their investors' expectations.

Lastly, I've added one extra nominee per year for movies that were very successful, but don't at all seem to be worthy of nomination. Maybe they were low brow. Maybe they were genre exploitation. Maybe they were innovative but bad in other ways. But I tried not to make such judgments. They're in parentheses.

If I've missed a gem, however, by all means, nominate your own favorites.

Here are the nominees.

2017: Dunkirk, Get Out, The Greatest Showman, Split, Wonder Woman, (The Shack) 2016: Finding Dory, Hacksaw Ridge, Hidden Figures, Miracles from Heaven, Sully, (Deadpool) 2015: Inside Out, Mad Max: Fury Road, The Martian, The Revenant, The Visit, (Star Wars: the Force Awakens), (Peanuts) 2014: American Sniper, God's Not Dead, Interstellar, Malificent, Saint Vincent, (300) 2013: 12 Years a Slave, The Butler, Captain Phillips, Gravity, Lone Survivor, (The Conjuring) 2012: Argo, The Dark Knight Rises, Lincoln, Silver Linings Playbook, Zero Dark Thirty, (Skyfall)


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To: tired&retired
Yeah, I saw it at an IMAX theater, heard that the aerial scenes were impressive. They were. But, they would have lost something on the TV in the living room.

Sound effects, too. Took WBill Jr. to see it. At the beginning of the movie, when the Germans touched off the MG, the sound effect was directly over our right shoulder, at near actual db levels, and my son nearly jumped out of his skin.

Neat, sez me, and I'm sure that's what the director was going for.

21 posted on 01/29/2018 7:21:12 AM PST by wbill
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To: napscoordinator
Dunkirk sucked

Yup, when the credits started rolling all I could think was "I want my hour and forty six minutes back.

22 posted on 01/29/2018 7:23:22 AM PST by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Mrs. WBill liked Wonder Woman. Raved and Raved about it. She liked seeing a female superhero, I guess, because I watched it and said “Meh. Superhero takes down the big baddie. There’s an original idea...”


23 posted on 01/29/2018 7:24:10 AM PST by wbill
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To: dangus

The best movie I’ve seen this year: Brawl in Cellblock 99 with Vince Vaughn...wow!


24 posted on 01/29/2018 7:24:11 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: wbill

I was in the front with the large screen.

It was as though I was in it rather than watching it.


25 posted on 01/29/2018 7:25:22 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: dangus

Dunkirk was kind of confusing and stupid. Not enough story telling in it. Not a lot of explanation about what was going on. And I KNEW the basics of the historical event...can imagine how someone less knowledgeable of history would not be totally lost.


26 posted on 01/29/2018 7:26:27 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: tx_eggman

Dunkirk plot was weak, but sound track and filming were excellent.


27 posted on 01/29/2018 7:26:47 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

Who is Ed Herman?


28 posted on 01/29/2018 7:27:06 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: dangus

2016 : Arrival. Great movie with a prolife message.


29 posted on 01/29/2018 7:28:06 AM PST by luckystarmom
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To: DouglasKC
Not a lot of explanation about what was going on. And I KNEW the basics of the historical event...can imagine how someone less knowledgeable of history would not be totally lost.

Funny, that's the one criticism I had for "The Longest Day", there was too much explaining in it, of course back then, people were more knowledgeable about what happened, so for those watching it today, it's probably just as well it was done the way it was.

30 posted on 01/29/2018 7:28:34 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: wbill

Thanks for the ‘13 Hours’ recommendation. I’ve seen that movie and it’s a winner. I suspect politics keeps it off the list of popular movies.

I read the book first and the movie followed the book most closely.


31 posted on 01/29/2018 7:29:33 AM PST by upchuck (Keep a sharp lookout. The best is yet to come.)
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To: DouglasKC
Dunkirk was kind of confusing and stupid.

I'm sure a lot of the guys who actually experienced it felt the same way...

32 posted on 01/29/2018 7:31:37 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: tired&retired; SpinnerWebb
Dunkirk plot was weak, but sound track and filming were excellent

Reminds me of a blind date someone tried to get me to go on years ago by telling me "she has a great personality".

33 posted on 01/29/2018 7:31:39 AM PST by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: tired&retired
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned “The Darkest Hour” I would definitely put it as best picture. Don't often shell out $15 bucks apiece for me and the wife to go to a movie, but wasn't disappointed! I noticed that Gary Oldman has been nominated for best actor and is the odds on favorite to win. It was Churchill's courage that saved western civilization. A wonderful portrayal!
34 posted on 01/29/2018 7:32:35 AM PST by gbscott1954 (Why not a real Conservative?)
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To: ByteMercenary

I lived in Los Angeles for 40 years and met numerous Hollywood types. Only a scant handful stood out. Most were meh...just people, not particularly striking or interesting. The small number who stood out (each for a different reason) were Cary Grant, John Forsythe, Bo Derek, Charlton Heston, Muhammad Ali, and Katherine Ross. I met my fair share of politicians too, and all of them were useless people.


35 posted on 01/29/2018 7:38:10 AM PST by Avalon Memories
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To: upchuck; wbill
I loved 13 Hours. The heroes were heroes, and the others standing in the way of their own salvation.... well.
36 posted on 01/29/2018 7:40:27 AM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: Avalon Memories

“.....Academy Awards continue to become more and more irrelevant............

Noting more than a bunch of arrogant people patting themselves on the back. I could care less.


37 posted on 01/29/2018 7:40:44 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Avalon Memories

Now, Katherine Ross and Bo Derek I would love to meet! Once ‘met’ Jacqueline Bisset outside Harrod’s In London. She was very gracious. Beautiful too.


38 posted on 01/29/2018 7:43:41 AM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: WayneS
I can’t help. I have not seen a single movie that was released in 2017... ...nor 2016 for that matter...

I haven't seen a Hollywood movie in that period. Saw a few foreign ones, but that's about it.

39 posted on 01/29/2018 7:44:03 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Rummyfan
Once ‘met’ Jacqueline Bisset outside Harrod’s In London. She was very gracious. Beautiful too.

I am so jealous! I had that poster from "The Deep" on my wall when I was a teenager.

40 posted on 01/29/2018 7:44:50 AM PST by dfwgator
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