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The end of the Steeler Patriots Game
Vanity ^ | 12/17/17 | a little elbow grease

Posted on 12/17/2017 5:14:29 PM PST by a little elbow grease

As a Steeler fan who just endured that game:

I only have one thing to say about the ending of that game:

As I understand the rule of a “pass catch” it is when a player 1. --- takes possession of the thrown ball , THEN 2. ---- makes what they call “a football move”. That is what determines a catch. 1 and 2.

(This rule I believe was first employed just a few years ago concerning a catch and a subsequent fumble. A catch was determined a catch if the receiver took control of the ball and then made “a football move” before he may fumble it when hit.) --- a pretty crappy rule no matter what.

Well……….. our Steeler player definitely 1. -- caught that ball and had complete control over it, then 2. --- reached out (IN “A FOOTBALL MOVE”)…… never having been touched by the other team (not that that is at all relevant) …….he reached over the goal line and as the ball was in his grasp the ball hit the ground slightly but the ball was still in his grasp.

That is a CERTAIN CATCH AND TOUCHDOWN because he took control of the ball then (reached over the goal line—“a football move”) with the ball and kept control never having been touched by the opponent. Touchdown.

1.--- It was a completed pass THEN 2. --- he made “a football move” reaching into the end zone -- that term is in the rule book. He landed in the end zone keeping control of the ball AFTER THE CATCH AND “THE FOOTBALL MOVE”. (Even if he “bobbled” the ball slightly, he had made a catch AND made that required "football move" as he reached over the goal line. ) Total horsesh*t call.

If the NFL had any balls (that aren’t deflated), they would admit they made a HUGE MISTAKE for the owner of the Patriots, Robert Kraft.

Total BS

The Steelers outplayed those New England characters most of the night, except for that beastly tight end of theirs.

Well……… we’ll see them later this year, and I don’t care where that game will be played, we may have Antonio Brown back for the entire game then.

The Patriots are going down the next time, no matter where it is played. (jmo)


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To: Pearls Before Swine

Thanks for your honesty.


21 posted on 12/17/2017 5:24:19 PM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom not more government)
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To: MuttTheHoople
As a Cowboy fan, I have no skin in this game. According to the way the NFL rules are stated now, he dropped the ball.

As I said above, I'm a Pats fan, but this is an interesting call.

On the one hand, if he had been going to the sideline, caught the ball with apparent control, gotten his knee down and then rolled out of bounds, losing the ball against the ground in the process, it would have been an incomplete pass.

But, if he had been running towards the goal line, extended his hand as he was going down, and then lost the ball after it crossed the plane, it would have been a touchdown, and not a fumble.

Which of these two cases did this play most closely resemble? Does going through the plane of the goal end the comparison with the incomplete pass? I dunno... they'll be talking about this one for a while. I'm glad it wasn't in a post-season game, even if the outcome favored my team. Actually, I think the Steelers outplayed the Pats for the most part, and deserved to win.

22 posted on 12/17/2017 5:24:32 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: onona
You got jobbed dude. Consider it partial payback for that immaculate reception bullshit.

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LOL... do you think that ball hit the ground?

23 posted on 12/17/2017 5:24:41 PM PST by a little elbow grease (I was married by a judge. I should have asked for a jury.)
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To: a little elbow grease

What’s painful s watching players kneel during anthem.
How many Steelers players knelt today?


24 posted on 12/17/2017 5:24:57 PM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small fee.)
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To: a little elbow grease

One correction....TWO BAD CALLS. That last interception was due to pass interference.


25 posted on 12/17/2017 5:26:27 PM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom not more government)
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To: ez
My view is that the rules states he must control the ball to the ground. When his knee hits he is on the ground, and the catch is over. The lunge is not part of the catch and the TD was scored the second he broke the plane.

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You're basically totally correct as I understand it.

But seriously, I've been watching football seriously since the mid-50's, and that was a catch if I ever saw one. He had COMPLETE control.

26 posted on 12/17/2017 5:26:58 PM PST by a little elbow grease (I was married by a judge. I should have asked for a jury.)
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To: econjack

It was bobbled against the ground... but he had crossed the plane. I guess they decided that the pass-catching completion rules dominated the passing the goal-line plane rule.

Even the announcers were surprised. Romo said, “Oh... that’s what they’re discussing on the review”, after first saying “Touchdown!”.


27 posted on 12/17/2017 5:27:26 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: a little elbow grease

I think it was a catch, but not a touchdown. He had full control when his knee hit the ground. Ball on the 1-yard line.


28 posted on 12/17/2017 5:28:27 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: a little elbow grease

I’m a NE fan and like the Steelers, but there were robbed. I cannot understand how that was not a catch and crossed the end zone with control of the ball.


29 posted on 12/17/2017 5:28:53 PM PST by Fzob (Let the saving love of Christ be the measure of our lives.)
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To: a little elbow grease

I hate the Steelers but must admit that the call at the end of the game was complete BS. At any other level of football (Pee wee to college) that would have been a touchdown. The NFL continues to be stupid in so many ways.


30 posted on 12/17/2017 5:29:07 PM PST by ohioman
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To: a little elbow grease

What 19 said.


31 posted on 12/17/2017 5:29:11 PM PST by democratsaremyenemy (Streepisacreep)
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To: MuttTheHoople
As a Cowboy fan, I have no skin in this game. According to the way the NFL rules are stated now, he dropped the ball.

Steeler-nation should be more bent about Rothliesberger throwing into triple coverage.

Yep. Bad call or not, the interception, cost them the game.

32 posted on 12/17/2017 5:29:19 PM PST by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: a little elbow grease
It's not football. It's Goodell ball.

And remember, Goodell works for Kraft. Patriots will always have the advantage under Goodell.

33 posted on 12/17/2017 5:29:45 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: JennysCool
based on an arcane rule change in, I believe they said, 2010.

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Yes..... thank you. As I mentioned in my initial post, that rule is relatively new (as you said) and totally insane.

But even with it, if you read the damn rule, he still should have been rewarded the TD.

Oh well.... Steelers/Patriots again most likely later this year.

34 posted on 12/17/2017 5:29:56 PM PST by a little elbow grease (I was married by a judge. I should have asked for a jury.)
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To: nickcarraway
Patriots will always have the advantage under Goodell.

How can you say that after Deflate-Gate?

35 posted on 12/17/2017 5:30:45 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: a little elbow grease
The ball was jarred loose when the player went to the ground. He had not established possession and by rule must maintain control of the ball to the ground if he has not established possession. If the ball hadn't touched the ground it wouldn't have mattered if he bobbled it because he was in bounds the entire time, but, it came loose AND it touched the ground, therefore, it was an incomplete pass no matter where the receiver was on the field.

Very tough break for the Steelers, but reversing the call from touchdown to incomplete pass was correct.

Even the announcers initially got it wrong and were madly backpedaling while the play was being reviewed. The officials reviewing the play took a long time just to make sure they made the right decision on the review because it was potentially the game deciding play. Tough break, but the pass was incomplete.

36 posted on 12/17/2017 5:30:48 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Progressive Mafia.)
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To: Luke21

LOL............ yes lots of BS with the NFL these days.


37 posted on 12/17/2017 5:30:54 PM PST by a little elbow grease (I was married by a judge. I should have asked for a jury.)
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To: a little elbow grease

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Every “football move” is unique, thus this is nonsense. Stop crying.

Control of the ball plus two feet inbounds defines a catch. There is nothing else, or we would have endless official reviews (if we don’t already).
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38 posted on 12/17/2017 5:30:58 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: a little elbow grease

And why should anyone care about what goes on in the Nutskell Foozbell League?


39 posted on 12/17/2017 5:31:18 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: a little elbow grease

This Just In: Jerry Richardson is selling the Panthers.


40 posted on 12/17/2017 5:31:31 PM PST by dfwgator
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