Posted on 12/17/2017 4:39:27 AM PST by Neoliberalnot
I wonder if genetic dispositions might be aggravated or triggered by vaccines or combinations thereof. I have no evidence, just curiosity.
I find that people who push for the harmlessness of pharmaceuticals act like pricks who seem to think that if i don’t agree with them their theory will fall apart
You can’t poasibly care about my background or whether i am educated as i claim to be ( i am and even more so) or whether i am truthful (i am) as you very offensively and wrongly state i am
But this is the way people with your point of view behave
Like pricks
I do not care if you believe vaccines do not cause autism.
It makes no difference to me nor could i possibly care about your educational background. Not possible
Also i never claimed not in my life and not here that vaccines are the cause of the autism epidemic people feel the need to claim we are not in the middle of but are
I suspect it’s the combo vaccines causing problems myself. But, even asking to have them administered separately and spread out can result in wild accusations of being an “anti-vaxxer” by some medical professionals.
“The “refrigerator mother” theory of causation was so thoroughly condemned that no researcher wanted to risk their reputation on studying the influence of mother-child bonding, or lack thereof.”
The public attacked all psychogenic theories including being gay or lesbian.
Here is the wiki post on this:
According to Peter Breggin’s 1991 book Toxic Psychiatry, the psychogenic theory of autism was abandoned for political pressure from parents’ organizations, not for scientific reasons. For example, some case reports have shown that profound institutional privation can result in quasi-autistic symptoms.[24] Clinician Frances Tustin devoted her life to the theory. She wrote:
One must note that autism is one of a number of children’s neurological disorders of psychogenic nature, i.e., caused by abusive and traumatic treatment of infants. ...There is persistent denial by American society of the causes of damage to millions of children who are thus traumatized and brain damaged as a consequence of cruel treatment by parents who are otherwise too busy to love and care for their babies.[25]
Alice Miller, one of the best-known authors of the consequences of child abuse, has maintained that autism is psychogenic, and that fear of the truth about child abuse is the leitmotif of nearly all forms of autistic therapy known to her. When Miller visited several autism therapy centers in the United States, it became apparent to her that the stories of children “inspired fear in both doctors and mothers alike”:
I spent a day observing what happened to the group. I also studied close-ups of children on video. What became clearer and clearer as the day went on was that all these children had a serious history of suffering behind them. This, however, was never referred to....In my conversations with the therapists and mothers, I inquired about the life stories of individual children. The facts confirmed my hunch. No one, however, was willing to take these facts seriously.[26]
Like Arieti and Tustin, Miller believes that only empathetic parental attitudes lead to the complete blossoming of the child’s personality.
The refrigerator mother theory, widely discarded in the United States, still has some support in France[27] and Europe and is largely believed in South Korea to be the cause of autism.[28] The academic psychologist Tony Humphreys of University College Cork is a leading Irish proponent of the theory of frigid parenting, despite censure by the Psychological Society of Ireland.[29]
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I differ significantly from these theorists in that in my humble opinion, the greatest impact upon the psychological development of a child is the events of the mother while the child is in the mother’s womb. I’ve demonstrated this many times when working with total strangers.
The detailed information available is much greater than researchers realize. Several times I have been able to identify temporary abandonment memories while the child was in the womb, due to the father being away on military duty.
Even anxiety in the mother due to the career impact of becoming pregnant carries to the child. All events during pregnancy are influential upon the child in the womb. This has happened many times when doing testing with total strangers during demonstrations with volunteers from a group.
Yep. Fully 50% of my mother's Anglo-Saxon tribe are asocial, quiet hermits who drink and prefer the company of animals to people.
Possibly the discomfort of the injection itself could cause emotional suppression.
For example, many soldiers with PTSD also have severe back pain. A common treatment for back pain is stellate ganglion injections to block neural transmission of pain signals. They found that this back pain treatment decreased PTSD symptoms.
So they did a research study comparing placebo injections of saline solution to pain killer injections in the stellate ganglion. Guess what... the placebo worked as well as the pain medicine to suppress PTSD symptoms. Stellate ganglion injections remain an evidence based treatment for PTSD.
I was surprised this past May at the American Psychiatric Association conference in San Diego when they presented evidence that emotional pain and physical pain utilize the same neural pathways in the brain. The joke following the presentation was, feeling emotional pain, take a Tylenol! It works.
See FR article -
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3614427/posts
How about trauma from circumcision on newborn baby boys?
Well, being a medical iprifessional, i maintain an advantage in being better able to tune people out, waving the bs flag
Don’t doubt it, i have been attacked. Why people care, i don’t know. Guilt? Being a part of the cover up?
One thing i know, it cannot possibly make a difference to anyone when i give my kid DTM tetanus or Hepatitis.
I have a doctor who works with us. If we have something for which antibiotics are called for we ask him to give us time ( he says how long) to cure it before we fool around with antibiotics.
Three times total In twenty years.
That should be a goal for people. Why not
Any typical rehab/ nursing home, all the patients are on a battery of meds many uneccessary many that the doctors have stock in (no way that’s ethicL. No way) all the buses do is give out meds and track them for eight hours. So much money
The patients are obese have diabetes kidney disease heart disease muscle weakness dementia
How much is side effect?
The oldest ones, the 100 year olds. Not obese and on the least meds. Vitamins that’s it
“How about trauma from circumcision on newborn baby boys?”
I don’t know, but the thought of it brings tears to my eyes.”
I can stop your bull poop with one short sentence.
There are no genetic epidemics.
(Such a thing is mathematically impossible.)
Next, wake up to modern science and learn about epigenetics. Lamarck was as correct as Darwin but never got his credit. Environment shapes and chooses our gene expression.
Clearly our current environment is causing those with genetic potential for autism to express it. Simply said, there are neurotoxins in our environment somewhere that is causing an epidemic of both autism in our kids and dementias and Parkinson’s in our elders. It’s best not to keep any environmental toxins off the table of potential suspects, even if they have the most powerful lobby like vaccination. It’s most scientific if we hard core study every chemical onslaught upon us in life.
As I said, I was trying to be kind. I actually think you are full of shit. I seriously doubt your claims of having ever worked for Ernst & Ernst or was and ever a “tax law professor” and have even more doubt that you ever got a degree in psychology or neuroscience from any accredited university. You remind me of the posers who claim to have had military service but are equally full of shit - stolen valor. And if you are practicing psychology or psychiatry without a license, you should be dealt with accordingly just as any quack should be.
My identity is not based upon what you believe or do not believe.
In fact, it is often better that those people who do not have open minds stay away.
In other words, we should just believe you and all your fantastical claims because we who doubt them, we just don’t have “open minds”. Got it. (I still think you are full of it and by "it" I mean shit.)
I seem to have read someone else’s post and somehow posted my last post to you instead.
The ‘stuff it ‘ message was not for you therefore I apologize. Best regards to you and your son.
I find vaccine abuse by the pharmaceutical and medical Industries infuriating. The current medical paradigm can replace organs, cure some cancers and do marvelous things. But there a some things they haven’t figured out quite yet and they tend to ‘wing it’. I worked in a biologics facility. Back in the 80s we made human serum albumen and AHF from human plasma. The albumen was pasturized. It worked just great. The Anti Hemophilic Factor could not be pasteurized without destroying it. So they knew it caused hepatitis but it was considered an equitable trade off. No one had heard of HIV. Thousands of hemophiliacs died from using our product as the AHF was manufactured from pooled plasma of thousands of people. Only 1 blood donor tainted the pool. Pretty much everyone who took AHF before 1983 or so died from it. We afterwards devised a viral inactivation process running nasty detergents into the medicine which required a long drawn out process to remove as the cure would kill you if it wasn’t brought down to next to nothing.
Had the virus inactivation been done for the hepatitis, the thousands who died from AIDS.....wouldn’t have.
As far as flu viruses. They make up a new and different batch each year to coincide with the current viruses. I don’t think they take enough time and study to determine the efficacy and safety of it. If it’s not effective? So you get the flu. People get the flu all the time. If it’s not safe? That’s a whole new potentially hazardous ball of wax.
First of all, as someone who worked in corporate accounting for many years for a publicly traded firm, external auditors do no simply fill out forms. I’ve worked closely with auditors including auditors from Ernst & Young and that’s not what they do.
Next if you had, while working for a firm like Ernst & Ernst, now Ernst & Young, the ability to hire other people to do the work that you didn’t want to do, found “boring”, having a CPA or CMA, CIA wouldn’t cut it, to rise to that sort of level in that sort of firm, an MBA at minimum would be required.
“Tax Law Professor” – Really? Where? When? At what law school?
A mere CPA does not have the credentials or experience necessary to be a “professor of tax law”. You may have taught accounting and even an introductionary course at a collage or a community college as a teacher, but a “tax law professor” without a law degree? FWIW, my nephew’s mother teaches Accounting at a state college in PA but she has a Ph.D. and a JD/Masters of Taxation. Being a “professor” is a full time position, not something someone does on the side.
Changed hats midstream, returned to the university as a student to study psychology and then neuroscience. I have found studying the human brain and consciousness much more intellectually stimulating than tax law!
At what university and what degrees in those areas did you obtain? What was your thesis on?
I still retain the CPA license just to help out friends.
God help them. If you help them anything like you try to help in psychology and pseudoscience woo, they are in big trouble.
I wish I had the answer for you. The days of corporal punishment are gone as are the days of separating the unruly from the rest. Where I am in Missouri, the unruly ones do get separated and sent to the alternative school.
Smile... I am...
Pharmaceuticals are not biologics. I’m not cherry picking anything. I have done a fair number of controlled studies testing the pharmacokinetics of several drugs, including chemotherapeutic and a couple of vaccines in animal models. So were you a research scientist for a pharmaceutical firm? Why would you work for a company or industry you seem to hate—for 30 years? Did they buy your loyalty? Are you void of principles?
I am not, but thank you for the information. Very interesting. This is not the only area where fraud is perpetrated by dishonest lawyers. I’ve been an expert witness a few dozen times but I have rejected offers in several cases too. Lawyers don’t follow the science, they follow the dollar, right or wrong.
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