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To: wideminded

In fact a preponderance of evidence has surfaced. It’s just that most people don’t know about it.

First, there is an ~10 month period in Stanley Ann’s life—the exact timeframe when she would have been pregnant and given birth—when no one anywhere admits to having seen her. She simply disappeared off the grid—the only time in her life that is wholly unaccounted for.

Second, it’s been established that during this period SA was not living with her parents or with her supposed husband. In fact, she had no HI address for this timeframe, and the address listed on both the fabricated birth certificate and the birth announcements is one where SA and the baby NEVER lived.

The first verified sighting of Stanley Ann and her newborn was 2,683 miles away from Honolulu. I.e.: the first confirmed sighting of Stanley Ann and her baby was in Seattle.

Sally Jacobs, via a FOIA request, obtained a document in which Obama Sr says the baby will likely be put up for adoption at the Salvation Army home for unwed mothers. There is not and has never been such an establishment in HI, but Seattle is only a stone’s throw from the Salvation Army home for unwed mothers in Vancouver.

Given airline restrictions in 1961, it’s a virtual impossibility that SA gave birth in HI and then rushed the newborn onto a flight for Seattle. [Two independent sources place SA in Seattle in the latter part of August.] If she’d given birth in HI, there would have been no reason to pay the exorbitant cost of relocating to Seattle anyway. Her school and family were in HI, and she knew no one in Seattle.

Add to that the FACT that the BC is fabricated. Three separate eyewitnesses say that what was in Obama’s HI records file was “handwritten.” One witness specifically stated that Obama had no BC on file. The handwritten notes tie in with the many anomalies associated with Obama’s HI records. The likeliest source for them is Obama’s grandmother, Madelyn Dunham. After Stanley Ann ended up either opting to keep the baby or being stuck with him, grandma would have gone into action to obtain US citizenship for him. HI made these kinds of under the table transactions easy; hence the handwritten notes and the newspaper birth announcements.

There is a lot more, but that’s the gist of it. The probability that Obama was born in Canada approaches 100%. Having the actual BC probably wouldn’t increase those odds. It’s a near certainty that SA didn’t register (at the home for unwed mothers) under her real name, or list the baby as Barack Obama II. Personally I don’t see the need for the Canadian BC; the evidence speaks for itself.


99 posted on 12/11/2017 8:30:29 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter; wideminded
"Sally Jacobs, via a FOIA request, obtained a document in which Obama Sr says the baby will likely be put up for adoption at the Salvation Army home for unwed mothers. There is not and has never been such an establishment in HI"

For reference the Lyle H. Dahling memo which was written in April, 1961 reads - "Subject got his USC wife ‘Hapai’ [Hawaiian for pregnant] and although they were married they do not live together and Miss Dunham is making arrangements with the Salvation Army to give the baby away"

There was a Salvation Army Home for unwed mothers in Honolulu in the 1960s.

The Salvation Army websites says this,

"The Western Territory established its first home in 1887 in Oakland, California. During their peak, there were 10 institutions across the West in Anchorage, Alaska; Boise, Idaho; Denver, Colorado; El Paso, Texas; Honolulu, Hawaii; Los Angeles, California; Oakland, California; Portland, Oregon (White Shield); San Diego, California (Door of Hope); and Spokane, Washington."

A search of Google Books find that 1948's "The Salvation Army Homes and Hospitals for Unmarried Mothers" lists the "The Salvation Army Women's Homes and Hospital" in Honolulu, Oahu T. H. as being founded in 1920.

https://books.google.com/books?id=EPBOAQAAMAAJ&dq=booth+memorial+hospital+honolulu&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Honolulu%2C+Oahu

A Google search for the term "Honolulu Advertiser "Any girl in need of a friend write or call" Salvation Army Booth Memorial Home." results in a number of advertisements from the 1950s and 1960s for the Salvation Army's Booth Memorial Home.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Honolulu+Advertiser+%22Any+girl+in+need+of+a+friend+write+or+call%22+Salvation+Army+Booth+Memorial+Home.&rlz=1C1AFAB_enUS458US463&oq=Honolulu+Advertiser+%22Any+girl+in+need+of+a+friend+write+or+call%22+Salvation+Army+Booth+Memorial+Home.&aqs=chrome..69i57.20078j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

By the 1970s the need for unwed mothers homes decreased and the Salvation Army changed their focus to support for unwed mothers.

A Google Books search finds that in the 1972 book "Community service agencies of Hawaii: a brief guide" there is this passage,

"SALVATION ARMY BOOTH UNWED PARENTS PROGRAMS (Formerly Salvation Army Booth Memorial Home) 3624 Waokanaka Street P. O. Box 88 Honolulu, Hawaii 96810 Telephone 595-6306 Purpose and Function Provides counseling to any pregnant girl and/or her family and other interested persons, as requested; resource and referral services; also residential ..."

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AFAB_enUS458US463&biw=1600&bih=769&tbm=bks&ei=S84uWpn2FITTjAOihKLgDg&q=Hawaii+Honolulu+%22Booth+Memorial+Home%22&oq=Hawaii+Honolulu+%22Booth+Memorial+Home%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...11896.14566.0.15270.2.2.0.0.0.0.83.161.2.2.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.cO7qtuocfck

104 posted on 12/11/2017 11:13:19 AM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: Fantasywriter
she knew no one in Seattle.

Anyone who lived in the Seattle area for 5 years and spent 4 years going to and graduating from Mercer Island High School would know a lot of people in the Seattle area.

The probability that Obama was born in Canada approaches 100%.

A complete conspiracy theory for which there is not one piece of evidence is very different from a probability approaching 100%.

If I have some time (which might not happen this week), I will take up your other points.

107 posted on 12/11/2017 1:12:06 PM PST by wideminded
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