Posted on 12/04/2017 5:26:24 PM PST by BenLurkin
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The only way to not get the flu is to not ingest the virus into your system. Keeping your hands a face clean (Lysol wipes) and stay out of sick peoples’ faces is how you do this. Vitamin ABCD-XYZ is not going to save you from the flu. But, having a healthy immune system can shorten the duration by quickly “learning” to attack the virus. The only fail safe is the correct flu shot, and then only a week to ten days after receiving it.
When people die from the flu, it is usually because they get secondary pneumonia due to the lung inflammation from the flu. In non-scientific language. IOW, if they didn’t get the flu, they would not have gotten pneumonia and died from it.
“The Spanish flu epidemic killed more people than WWI.”
It also hastened the end of WWI.
“This years flu may be one that affects the young and healthy.”
They die because their immune systems are robust and go into overdrive, killing the host along with the disease.
That type of illness would also kill someone with an out-of-whack immune system. For example, Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis is an autoimmune disease that causes the immune system to attack ones own body. People with Hashi are cautioned against even taking echinacea, which stimulates the immune system.
“It also hastened the end of WWI.”
Yep - everyone was running out of young men to send. Sort of makes one wonder if it was a “God Thing”.
I had the flu ONE time. Was down for 10 days. I have faithfully gotten a flu shot every year since.
Interesting, but do have a source for this?
I would also caution against drawing this type of conclusion (correlation vs. causation) as one would have to know the rates of smoking in the general population at that time, also of those who recovered from the Spanish flu, how many of them were smokers vs. non-smokers, and also look at the flu deaths of women, were they also smokers or non-smokers?
I know someone who picked up a flu bug out of country.
When he left the country, he was fine.
Twelve hours later he was in the ER and then his wife and sister got it too. It hit hard and fast and was very contagious.
My uncle was 64 when he got what we thought was a cold in January. By February he was in the ER with pneumonia. By April he was dead.
I’m in S. MS - haven’t heard of any big outbreaks here. Wife had shot and I passed on it. How bad is this version treating you? Usually the biggest problem is the congestion and Mucinex D helps more than anything else to help force-clean the lungs.
Get well soon, FRiend.
Wow, that sounds horrible. Wishing him a full recovery.
Thank you and the others for the kind words.
This is the FreerRepublic I know and love. Thank you for saying this, so I don't have to.
Does Elderberry have value before a person even gets sick?
I thought the value Elderberry has is that it decreases the bodies’ response to cytokines, thus reducing fever.
Extensive research shows that elder stop the production of hormone-like cytokines that direct a class of white blood cells known as neutrophils to cause inflammation, especially in influenza and arthritis.
On the other hand, elder increases the production non-inflammatory infection-fighting cytokines as much as 10 fold. Elder berries are known to be effective against eight strains of influenza. This suggests that elder be superior to vaccines in preventing flu, because flu vaccines are only effective against known strains of flu, whereas the virus is continually mutating to new strains.
Dr. Madeleine Mumcuoglu, of Hadassah-Hebrew University in Israel found that elderberry disarms the enzyme viruses use to penetrate healthy cells in the lining of the nose and throat.
****Taken before infection, it prevents infection.****
Taken after infection, it prevents spread of the virus through the respiratory tract. In a clinical trial, 20% of study subjects reported significant improvement within 24 hours, 70% by 48 hours, and 90% claimed complete cure in three days. In contrast, subjects receiving the placebo required 6 days to recover
https://wellnessmama.com/5913/elderberries-herb-profile/
IIRC, it's only been since 2009 that flu has emerged as the number one danger connected to death by pneumonia but the fact of the matter is there is a long list of pneumonia causes including STD's, specifically chlamydia.
2009, if that year is correct, marks the pharma industry's push to inoculate and inoculation does provide a pathway of many laboratory life forms capable of squeezing through the opening at the end of that needle.
The subject of all the pity generated by the designing press should have stayed in mexico. As eastexsteve mentions, The only way to not get the flu is to not ingest the virus into your system.
Her lifestyle as the article indicates opened her to many opportunities of life destroying pneumonia, not just the flu. To me, she's just another example of culture clash. Except in her case, she's the one that paid dearly.
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