Posted on 12/02/2017 9:09:54 PM PST by C19fan
The No. 8 Ohio State Buckeyes captured their first Big Ten championship since 2014 thanks to a 27-21 triumph over the No. 4 Wisconsin Badgers at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis on Saturday night. The win, which was buoyed by a slew of explosive plays from the Buckeyes' speedy skill position players, figures to incite tremendous debate among the College Football Playoff selection committee in advance of Sunday's final rankings reveal.
You're the only one I've heard claim that was a big win.
Fresno State, Not even once. You're the only one to ever say that.
Mississippi State, yes, they've claimed them...also, Florida State when they were ranked number two.
"I'm a big Alabama fan and I'm not real sure we belong in the play-offs either. "
I knew someone would use this year’s cluster as a reason to further expand the championship playoff system. (No offense intended). You’d have to end the season 2 weeks earlier, or create a playoff while everybody else plays hopped up exhibition games against hastily scheduled opponents (if that’s even practical).
Just what we need: advice from Gator fans.
Since 2006, 8 of the Champs are SEC.
Alabama won the year after OSU. You sound like all the other butthurt anti SEC people.
The decision should really come down to Ohio State or USC. 2 loss conference champions. And maybe throw undefeated UCF in the mix.
Don't win your division, you don't play for a championship, it's that simple.
Not that I have any say, I'd put UCF in there. And if not them, USC. Hint to Ohio State, don't get piss-pounded by Iowa.
And yet you can forgive a team not winning its conference, or even winning its division?
It's pretty simple: One team won its 7-team pool AND won its 14-team pool with its body of work for the year... the other team failed to win its 7-team pool and failed to win its 14-team pool... and you think the second team is more deserving of entering the 4-team pool? The divisions and conferences matter far more than a single loss.
Further, the FCS charter literally says that a conference champion must be chosen above a non-champion unless the non-champion's body of work is vastly superior. Alabama's is not. They played a weaker schedule, and they looked mostly unimpressive for all of November.
Bama's last 4:
failed to cover the spread at home against LSU, by 7.5 pts;
down 24-17 to MSU in the 4th;
2 turnovers to cupcake Mercer;
only 103 yds passing, only 3-11 on 3rd down, only 1-4 on 4th down in getting manhandled by 3-loss Auburn).
OSU's last 4:
destroyed #16 MSU 48-3;
destroyed Illinois (16 yds passing for the game, 1-12 on 3rd down);
handily won one of the biggest rivalry games in college football (UM vs OSU);
racked up 449 yrs against the #1 NCAA defense (in ypg, 253.2) to win the conference title.
There is only one clear choice.
Show me anywhere that's ever been claimed by anyone except you....It's just not true.
If someone said Alabama didn’t deserve to go, I could understand that. But they damn sure deserve to go more than 2 loss OSU.
Nothing on OSU’s schedule impresses me. The top team you played was OU and OSU got their asses handed to them. Other than that, nothing on their schedule impresses me — Michigan - No, Penn State — No, Wis. — No.
Also, compare auburn’s losses to Iowa. LOL.
Eight teams. 5 power conferences and 3 at large.
Eight teams. 5 power conferences, the top non-power conference champion, and the next 2 at large.
Then EVERY team has an actual chance from Day One. Taking the next 3 (Bama, PSU, USC) still leaves out UCF and the only 12-0 season in football this year. Adding in at least one Non-5 winner makes every season a Cinderella possibility, and makes every game and every conference relevant.
As for "fake Championship"... the current playoff is still FAR better than the Popularity Contest we had in Division I for the previous century. Even last year, 3 outlets still chose Alabama as the National Champion, despite the loss to Clemson in the title game. (The Congrove, Colley, and Dunkel systems, which are 3 of the computer systems used in the rankings today.)
Not only two loses - but they have two losses as well!
Yep. Two losses as well. That’s what happens at 4 am when you can’t sleep.
I knew I had done that as you can see in my later posts.
Because you refuse to see, because of personal bias. OSU racked up 449 yrs against the top defense in all of college football by ypg (WIS). Outside of OSU, PSU was 10-1, losing only at #17 MSU by only 3. Michigan v OSU is a major rivalry, if not THE rivalry game in all of college football. Winning on the road by 11 to an 8-3 team with the #3 defense in the nation (by ypg) is not "nothing".
Comparing the stats:
OSU was #6 in offensive ypg, Bama #20...
Bama was #2 in defensive ypg, OSU #8...
OSU was #5 in offensive ppg, Bama #12...
Bama #1 in defensive ppg, OSU #22...
Strength of Schedule: OSU #2, Bama #10...
Again, pretty close all around (by any rational and unbiased observer), but the FCS charter says that a non-champion's resume must be clearly better to overlook a conference champion. Alabama simply isn't "clearly" better, by any stretch of the imagination. Alabama maybe gets in over PAC-12 Champion USC (11-2), not over BigTen Champion OSU.
Uh Bama is not the entire SEC.
I would agree but OSU has TWO LOSSES.
Alabama opened with FSU. FSU was very talented but lost their starting QB late in the game for the season. The FSU Bama played was a top 5 team but their season went down the toilet.
The teams that deserve to go are OU, UGA, and Clemson. I won’t lose sleep if Bama doesn’t go. They didn’t take care of business. But I believe they deserve to go before a 2 loss team that loss by 31 points to Iowa. Look at auburn’s losses vs Iowa’s.
Regardless of which team gets in, I believe Alabama or OSU will hit the exit door soon. Neither has overly impressed me.
So the 2-UF, Auburn, and LSU championships don’t count?
What’s the better conference?
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