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To: jeffersondem
At this point I guess you are ready to change the topic to anything that is unrelated to the Battle Hymn of the Republic and Lincoln's valorous war.

I would disagree. You claim that the North was the aggressor because it invaded the South. But having started the war, only the South was responsible for keeping enemy forces out of their territory. So to say the North was the aggressor for invading the South when the South started the war in the first place is, to me at least, as ridiculous as saying the U.S. was the aggressor in World War II for invading Germany when Germany started the war to begin with.

179 posted on 11/21/2017 5:55:32 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
You go in circles with that argument. The occurrence of war was always in the hands of Lincoln. If he wanted a war, there was going to be a war. He almost started it in Pensacola, but for the intervention of the captain that intercepted Porter in his effort to violate the armistice they had worked out with the governor of Florida.
187 posted on 11/21/2017 8:20:50 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DoodleDawg

“So to say the North was the aggressor for invading the South when the South started the war in the first place is, to me at least, as ridiculous as saying the U.S. was the aggressor in World War II for invading Germany when Germany started the war to begin with.”

Are you now sated having played the Nazi Card twice in this thread?

The Nazi’s went wrong in every way I know because they pursued socialist policies and many of their leaders dabbled in the occult. They were bad guys.

Southerners were mostly good guys.

But they had this one little quirk. They believed: Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Don’t ask me where they got such a crazy idea.

General Eisenhower knew about southerners. And he knew about Nazis. Unlike many today, he never confused the two.

General Eisenhower knew right from wrong. And so far as I know, he never lacked the courage to proclaim the difference.


238 posted on 11/21/2017 7:30:19 PM PST by jeffersondem
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