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To: daniel1212; metmom; Fantasywriter; boatbums; Elsie; Mark17
I understand your tack in this lesson, but the Scrpture quoted and Edwards' discourse all have the saveable sinner in a crowd whose God's omniscient foresight of all future outcomes sees there are many that will never respond. Unless there is a Purgatory (and I fully doubt it) the account of Lazarus and the rich man in Luke 16, wherein Jesus illustrates a Hellish outcome (and I believe this is an actuality) we see no hint that either He or the Father any longer have a loving compassion for the tormented sinner.

I will not be easily convinced that God has any love left for the person who yields up his physical life, expecting annihilation of the soul and spirit rather than an excruciating eternal death. The basis is the indication from Genesis 6:3 (AV):

"And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh:
yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years."

Man was created to have continual fellowship with the Eternal God and His Son; but (subsequent to the fall and the entrance of sin and death) there is apparently a limit to which God will patiently suffer rejection of His plan of salvation, and that is the point at which the soul is parted from the earthly corruptible flesh body.

The discussion needs to consider this phase of the human existence, setting the sphere of redeemability to one side, which is the only one the responders here seem to be focusing on, to the neglect of God's disposition to those who have left this life with their relationship to Him unrepaired.

181 posted on 11/17/2017 7:26:27 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1
I understand your tack in this lesson, but the Scrpture quoted and Edwards' discourse all have the saveable sinner in a crowd whose God's omniscient foresight of all future outcomes sees there are many that will never respond. Unless there is a Purgatory (and I fully doubt it) the account of Lazarus and the rich man in Luke 16, wherein Jesus illustrates a Hellish outcome (and I believe this is an actuality) we see no hint that either He or the Father any longer have a loving compassion for the tormented sinner. I will not be easily convinced that God has any love left for the person who yields up his physical life, expecting annihilation of the soul and spirit rather than an excruciating eternal death. The basis is the indication from Genesis 6:3 (AV):

I do not know where I said anything that made those in Hell to be loved by God, especial if love is to be considered an attitude resulting in action. From the beginning I argued that God hates/abohors sinners and who are the objects of His anger an wrath, as were (and without faith would and can be), but yet loves them, thus is not willing that any perish. However, as I also stated God "will send the lost to Hell and "despise their image" (Psalms 73:20)" when He awakes in judgment of them.

190 posted on 11/17/2017 4:15:07 PM PST by daniel1212 (rust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + folllow Him)
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