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To: Chainmail; Zionist Conspirator; Slyfox; the OlLine Rebel; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer
For those Catholics who feel it's necessary to attack others - you aren't helping anyone, certainly not God. If we wish to convince others, give good example and invite - don't insult or disparage. Our Lord wants us together with Him, doesn't want us to lose anyone.

But the point you still miss is that do hold to or take a stand for anything being right is by necessity to be opposed to the contrary. And thus while you promote togetherness with Christ, you disparage those who see this as impossible with those who preach contrary to Christ. And if hold that your warm and fuzzy ecumenism is of Christ, you must say in turn that those who contend for doctrine against those who distort are contrary to Christ.

Honestly, I have been insulted and hurt as a Catholic in my life by some Protestants but I never let it change my respect and affection for them (at least the ones who were living a good Christian life). I have attended many Protestant services with friends

Which examples another point you do not seem to realize, which is that the church began with division, which the Lord said He came to bring, and unity with those based on Truth, which was is exclusive by nature.

And thus your church, supposing she is uniquely the one true church, has stated, " this Apostolic See has never allowed its subjects to take part in the assemblies of non-Catholics.” (Pope Pius XI, Mortalium Animos, 10,11; http://w2.vatican.va/content/pius-xi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_19280106_mortalium-animos.html)

1917 Code of Canon Law: "It is not permitted at all for the faithful to assist in any active manner at or to have any part in the worship of non-Catholics." (1917 Code of Canon Law states: that:Canon 1258)

the Church forbids the faithful to communicate with those unbelievers who have forsaken the faith they once received, either by corrupting the faith, as heretics, or by entirely renouncing the faith, as apostates, because the Church pronounces sentence of excommunication on both.” (St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica)

And it is because traditional RCs see the historical (medieval) RCC as being true that they contend against modern teaching which they see as being in contradiction to it.

Thus you implicitly reprove as unChrist-like both Bible Christians and RCs for their contentions for what they see as Truth, while if you advocate unity based on a few basic beliefs while disagreement exists in essential core Truths, then you must make your case as to why this is Christ-like.

But if you will not substantiate the basis for your position and implicit censor of those who contend for essential Truths, then whatever body of believers you envision will seem to be just a warm mass that lacks necessary bones.

And i dare think I am in unity on this issue with my opponents.

106 posted on 11/15/2017 7:12:51 PM PST by daniel1212 (rust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + folllow Him)
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To: daniel1212; metmom; boatbums; aMorePerfectUnion
the Church forbids the faithful to communicate with those unbelievers who have forsaken the faith they once received, either by corrupting the faith, as heretics, or by entirely renouncing the faith, as apostates,

It would appear, that we are up the proverbial creek, or not. Kind of depends on your point of view. 🤪😚🤩🤠

110 posted on 11/15/2017 8:01:05 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: daniel1212
the Church forbids the faithful to communicate with those unbelievers who have forsaken the faith they once received . . .

Permit me to reword this:

"the Church forbids their faithful communicants to communicate with those unbelievers who have forsaken the faith they once received professed . . ."

(These apostates could not have "received" The Faith unto salvation and regeneration, IMHO. Neither were they individually repositories of The Gospel Faith--they were only originally accepted as communicants on the basis of profession.)

Respectfully submitted --

113 posted on 11/15/2017 9:13:57 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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