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To: Steve Van Doorn
I can make an argument that Islam is an ideology more then a religion and a direct violation of our constitution.

I also believe it can hold up in court.

Scientology I can't use the same argument.

Judge Learned Hand, the best Supreme Court justice who never was, said, (paraphrasing, the exact quote doesn't come to mind) 'neither this court, nor any other may sit in judgement of religion.'

BTW, The Romans decided that Christianity was a cult, not a religion. Does that make it right or wrong for an agent of the state to sit in judgement of religion?

81 posted on 11/10/2017 5:58:27 AM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: null and void
said, "Does that make it right or wrong for an agent of the state to sit in judgement of religion?"

Ask any Imam what is the function of Islam?
The answer should be, "it's an Iqamat-ud-Deen (established religion)"

To this day you can't legally be a Communist or any ideology that opposes the constitution and run for office or become a citizen. For the simple fact you can't swear allegiance to the constitution(or agreeing to the terms of the contract.) It's technically insurrection.

Islam is a required theocracy (Islam requires a path too Darul Islam or house of Islam) which is clearly against the first amendment. To be real clear: Freedom of religion and a theocracy(established religion or Iqamat-ud-Deen) are the antithesis of one another.

I find it funny when people say, "Muslims have freedom of religion." What they're really saying is "Muslims have the freedom to establish their religion as a theocracy."

Technically people that follow Islam they can't have freedom of their ideology in the US. No one has taken this to the supreme court yet. One day it will have to be ruled on

said, "punished as one would punish an Enron or a tobacco company, for their crimes and actions, not their beliefs, or lack thereof"

Enron was a legally based company that went bad. It didn't have a charter to kill and take legal control all of humanity. Islam does. NO other belief has a legal system built into there belief other then Christianity did when it was a theocracy. That is past history for Christianity which is exactly what the first amendment was written to avoid.

Islam should be treated for what it is. A religion that is required to replace our system of laws which is insurrection.

Scientology was created to generate money for their leader.
It's not a strong enough case to claim it's not a religion. There is no argument that can be made that it's insurrection.

114 posted on 11/10/2017 12:36:34 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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