[dsc]

“belief” is extremely subjective. Very iffy in court.”

There are people who heard him plan to invent a fake religion for the purpose of gaining access to females and money; and others who heard him admit that it’s all fake.

There’s no subjectivity here.

[Steve Van Doorn]

I'm not disagreeing with you. That it's corrupted from the start. Their followers today believe in UFO shit flying spacecraft that look like DC10's. Isn't that a "belief?"

It' nuts no matter how you look at it. it's still a "belief"