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Federal Tax Rate Reductions & Deductibility of State & Local Taxes (VANITY)
VANITY | October 26, 2017 | House Atreides

Posted on 10/26/2017 8:26:53 PM PDT by House Atreides

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I live in the high tax state of Maryland and would miss our SALT itemized deductions but would give them up for tax rate reductions to fire up our economy.
1 posted on 10/26/2017 8:26:54 PM PDT by House Atreides
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Why should state and local governments get to have their taxes deducted? Progressives want everybody to pay their fair share, right?

All this does is give cover to blue state hellholes who can't manage their budgets.

Get rid of all federal tax deductions and let's have a simple 10% flat income tax.

2 posted on 10/26/2017 8:30:17 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (We're right, you're wrong - that's the end of the argument.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Why should others get to deduct their mortgages, their kiddos, and others get money "back", when they pay NO Frd Income taxes at all?

ASnd how about that "great" DACA and amnesty crap in this Bill and the the fact that companies will still be able to deduct state taxes and more than just that?

3 posted on 10/26/2017 8:34:01 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: House Atreides

Not gonna happen.


4 posted on 10/26/2017 8:34:20 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

LOL — I’m guessing that you want to keep your SALT deduction.


5 posted on 10/26/2017 8:37:08 PM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY.)
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To: nopardons

That’s what I mean! I don’t want any deductions, credits, or loopholes in the federal tax system. Hard, nice flat 10% income tax would solve a lot of our problems.


6 posted on 10/26/2017 8:40:56 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (We're right, you're wrong - that's the end of the argument.)
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To: House Atreides

The standard deductions are going to be doubled - this should mean that many people will no longer gain any advantage in itemizing their deductions and thus not need to consider SALT at all -in fact, the only taxpayers who will be hurt by this proposal are the relatively wealthy who pay very high local and state taxes and thus have itemized deductions higher than the new, higher standard deductions - since lefties are always complaining that Republicans want to lower taxes on the rich, it’s hard to see why they’d object to this idea.....


7 posted on 10/26/2017 8:43:37 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: House Atreides

At this point, unless you are a straight W-2 employee, it is virtually impossible to complete & file a tax return w/o Turbo Tax.


8 posted on 10/26/2017 8:43:51 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them!)
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Not being able to adjust to basis of long held assets for gov’t caused inflation is criminal.


9 posted on 10/26/2017 8:46:04 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

its double taxation...a tax on a tax...


10 posted on 10/26/2017 8:46:52 PM PDT by cherry
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To: nopardons

Not being able to adjust the basis of long held assets for gov’t caused inflation is criminal.


11 posted on 10/26/2017 8:47:20 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Intolerant in NJ
The standard deductions are going to be doubled - this should mean that many people will no longer gain any advantage in itemizing their deductions and thus not need to consider SALT at all

Good point.

12 posted on 10/26/2017 8:48:16 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: cherry

True for state income taxes, less so for the wealth tax on property.


13 posted on 10/26/2017 8:48:23 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

You’re right —we’ve used Turbo Tax for many years and find it indispensable.


14 posted on 10/26/2017 8:48:42 PM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY.)
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To: cherry

“it’s double taxation....a tax on a tax...”
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That’s true. Just as it’s true for when my state (People’s Republic of Maryland) taxes our money that went to pay federal taxes.


15 posted on 10/26/2017 8:52:05 PM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY.)
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To: House Atreides

No one wants to play for America.

If they up the SD to $24k it should offset for most people...


16 posted on 10/26/2017 8:52:27 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

That would be an economic disaster. Bankruptcies would soar because of the collapse of the housing market because of the realization that the cost of mortgages increases. Banks would foreclose on housing which will threaten their solvency.

People’s simple solution are ill-conceived and not thought through. This is one of those.


17 posted on 10/26/2017 8:55:59 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: House Atreides

In some ways TurboTax is very irritating, because it wants you to fill out worksheets and worksheets to develop worksheets and worksheets to develop your developmental worksheets. If you are a small business typically filing on a schedule C and know what forms you file every year, you can of course bypass much of that. But it has become quite a bit more cumbersome over the years. Still, the final math cross-checks and the ability to perform various what- ifs is quite valuable.


18 posted on 10/26/2017 9:06:54 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them!)
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To: nopardons

We want people to be able to deduct their children because children propagate the species and we need lots and lots of Middle Class working people in the future to pay for those on Social Security and Medicare who never had children.

We want people to deduct their mortgage interest because we want people to be homeowners People who own their own homes are more stable and ultimately build more wealth thereby increasing the wealth of the country and making more people middle class. This is a good thing.

We should eliminate SALT deductions because we want efficient and frugal government at all levels and profligate local and state spending is presently supported by the wage earners in low tax states. The states will be under pressure to reduce their profligate spending and taxes when the local citizens can no longer deduct their insanely high state and local taxes shifting the burden to lower tax states.

That is the theory anyway.


19 posted on 10/26/2017 9:11:14 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: arrogantsob
Bankruptcies would soar because of the collapse of the housing market because of the realization that the cost of mortgages increases.

Marx, is that you? You've never heard of the free market in which these bloated housing costs would naturally get corrected?

Why should someone get something back from the Federal government anyway? Pay what you owe, and that's that. That would eliminate all the compliance costs and everybody would have skin in the game.

20 posted on 10/26/2017 9:12:05 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (We're right, you're wrong - that's the end of the argument.)
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