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Mexicans see models of Trump's 'impenetrable' wall, and they're not impressed (They look good!)
Washington Post ^ | October 16, 2017 | Joshua Partlow

Posted on 10/18/2017 10:10:15 PM PDT by cba123

SAN DIEGO — The prototypes of the Trump border wall are taking shape this month in a sunbaked swath of scrubland abutting a run-down neighborhood of Tijuana, Mexico. Lined up next to each other, the 30-foot-tall concrete and steel sample barriers — some with extra-stout reinforced bases, others topped with metal spikes — certainly look ominous.

The requirements established to realize President Trump's vision call for "a fence that is impenetrable, it's unscalable," said Roy Villareal, acting chief patrol agent of the San Diego border sector. "They can't dig under it. They can't cut through it."

(link to the article will be included below)

Looks good, to me.

Get to work though. Build it.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


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Build the wall.

Now.

1 posted on 10/18/2017 10:10:15 PM PDT by cba123
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/mexicans-see-models-of-trumps-impenetrable-wall-and-theyre-not-impressed/2017/10/16/4f54bdb8-ad22-11e7-9b93-b97043e57a22_story.html?utm_term=.269f3a36763b


2 posted on 10/18/2017 10:11:21 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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13:48 video, at the website.

Some of the models look good. Some seem to me, to be just elaborate in a way, to make them ineffective as a real barrier.

But there are plenty of people who know what works, and what will not work. They will select a good model.

Now, is the time. Select one, and get started.


3 posted on 10/18/2017 10:20:10 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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Don’t like the Washington Post wall.


4 posted on 10/18/2017 10:26:58 PM PDT by Slyfox (Are you tired of winning yet?)
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As long as there are spaces for tauntings.

5 posted on 10/18/2017 10:27:52 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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If they wanted to make it effective they would top each section with a large diameter pipe. People will use ladders to top a regular wall. The pipe would provide a curved surface extending several feet beyond where the ladder rests and make it harder to scramble over the top.


6 posted on 10/18/2017 10:31:24 PM PDT by Hootowl
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F***king Mexicans! Fix your own damn country instead of always figuring how to f**k up mine!


7 posted on 10/18/2017 10:40:43 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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Spread the word; Mandatory 10 years for 1st time illegal crossers. $10K/head bounty. Oh, then build the wall.


8 posted on 10/18/2017 10:41:12 PM PDT by umgud
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Whether or not a wall will be effective depends on whether or not those trying to get through or over the wall have experience in construction, work with steel, masonry, excavation or similar skilled labor. A lack of employers willing to be punished for hiring them would stop them, though.


9 posted on 10/18/2017 10:48:06 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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The simplest machine conquers all. Behold the inclined plane.

Height and depth are no match for a ramp.

10 posted on 10/18/2017 10:51:08 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (TETELESTI Read em and weep Lucy! Yer times almost up.)
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Put snipers every 1/2 mile.


11 posted on 10/18/2017 10:56:56 PM PDT by Salamander (I ride at night, and I travel in fear, that in this darkness, I will disappear...)
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Razor wire will ruin your day.


12 posted on 10/18/2017 10:57:46 PM PDT by Salamander (I ride at night, and I travel in fear, that in this darkness, I will disappear...)
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Moats with crocodiles! 24/7 coverage no extra expense.


13 posted on 10/18/2017 10:59:45 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (TETELESTI Read em and weep Lucy! Yer times almost up.)
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In southern Europe, the top of residential walls have wine bottles embedded in concrete. The tops were then broken off!

≡≡8-O

14 posted on 10/18/2017 11:14:15 PM PDT by Does so (McAuliffe's Charlottesville...and...The Walter Duranty Press"...)
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Let’s just tell liberals the wall is there to keep Russians out.


15 posted on 10/18/2017 11:26:40 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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Are the prototypes in San Ysindro or TTown?

If in TTown, kind of like allowing the KGB to build the US Embassy in Moscow or even OUR FBI/CIA/NSA build the Russian embassy in DC


16 posted on 10/18/2017 11:37:13 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)""If the earth were flat, cats would have pushed everything over the edge by now")
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Let’s just tell liberals the wall is there to keep Russians out.
= = = = = = = = = =

OR

KEEP THEM IN... It will get built in a few weeks


17 posted on 10/18/2017 11:39:15 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)""If the earth were flat, cats would have pushed everything over the edge by now")
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One feature that would help keep weeds down for easy maintenance, would be to lay a bit of concrete slab for eight or twelve feet on either side of the wall.

It would also make for a hard landing for anyone who fell off the wall. Falling 30 feet onto concrete is no joke.

Precast panels could be laid on the ground, if you wanted an ankle-turning impact area, that would be an even harder landing than flat concrete:


18 posted on 10/18/2017 11:58:07 PM PDT by BeauBo
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Once the prototypes are built, the BP get to try to get through them, over them, under them, throw the book at them. Is one better for this terrain or that terrain? Can they last at least 1/2hr before breach? They’ll make recommendations for improvements, and then the pouring concrete starts. Or something like that.


19 posted on 10/19/2017 12:12:50 AM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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Walls are stupid and expensive. They can be defeated and scaled in areas that are not patrolled. It may be a little difficult but it can be done if you have time.

Mine field are 100% effective. They are cheap and easy and very quick to deploy. Put the signs out in multiple languages that say the next 300 meters are a mine field and if you cross it you will die. Problem solved.

This seems insanely cruel. Without doubt some will try to cross and die but it will be very very few particularly after the first few deaths. The word gets around quickly.

Each year many hundreds die in the deserts of California, New Mexico and particularly Arizona when they try to cross the border in isolated places. The desert is a killer in the summer. You need water and it is a lot of water if you are walking for two or three days in the heat. In 2016 the known deaths of illegal border crossing in the desert was 316. I grew up in the desert and know how hot and vast it is. I assure the real number is much higher but I have no idea how much higher. There are many bleached and white bones out in the desert that none know about.

What is more humane I ask? A mine field that kills a few people and after such no one will dare cross, or a barbed wire fence on the Arizona border that anyone can cross and die in the desert. Many cross that barbed wire fence and die in the desert or at the hands of the coyote smugglers.

Both are bad, but which in more humane?

ps

Grew up on the border, speak Spanish, married to a Mexican National now a USA citizen with multiple degrees from Texas Universities and not in the social sciences. I know of which I speak.


20 posted on 10/19/2017 12:16:40 AM PDT by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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