Posted on 10/18/2017 10:10:15 PM PDT by cba123
SAN DIEGO The prototypes of the Trump border wall are taking shape this month in a sunbaked swath of scrubland abutting a run-down neighborhood of Tijuana, Mexico. Lined up next to each other, the 30-foot-tall concrete and steel sample barriers some with extra-stout reinforced bases, others topped with metal spikes certainly look ominous.
The requirements established to realize President Trump's vision call for "a fence that is impenetrable, it's unscalable," said Roy Villareal, acting chief patrol agent of the San Diego border sector. "They can't dig under it. They can't cut through it."
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Looks good, to me.
Get to work though. Build it.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
Now.
13:48 video, at the website.
Some of the models look good. Some seem to me, to be just elaborate in a way, to make them ineffective as a real barrier.
But there are plenty of people who know what works, and what will not work. They will select a good model.
Now, is the time. Select one, and get started.
Don’t like the Washington Post wall.
As long as there are spaces for tauntings.
If they wanted to make it effective they would top each section with a large diameter pipe. People will use ladders to top a regular wall. The pipe would provide a curved surface extending several feet beyond where the ladder rests and make it harder to scramble over the top.
F***king Mexicans! Fix your own damn country instead of always figuring how to f**k up mine!
Spread the word; Mandatory 10 years for 1st time illegal crossers. $10K/head bounty. Oh, then build the wall.
Whether or not a wall will be effective depends on whether or not those trying to get through or over the wall have experience in construction, work with steel, masonry, excavation or similar skilled labor. A lack of employers willing to be punished for hiring them would stop them, though.
Height and depth are no match for a ramp.
Put snipers every 1/2 mile.
Razor wire will ruin your day.
Moats with crocodiles! 24/7 coverage no extra expense.
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Let’s just tell liberals the wall is there to keep Russians out.
Are the prototypes in San Ysindro or TTown?
If in TTown, kind of like allowing the KGB to build the US Embassy in Moscow or even OUR FBI/CIA/NSA build the Russian embassy in DC
Lets just tell liberals the wall is there to keep Russians out.
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KEEP THEM IN... It will get built in a few weeks
It would also make for a hard landing for anyone who fell off the wall. Falling 30 feet onto concrete is no joke.
Precast panels could be laid on the ground, if you wanted an ankle-turning impact area, that would be an even harder landing than flat concrete:
Once the prototypes are built, the BP get to try to get through them, over them, under them, throw the book at them. Is one better for this terrain or that terrain? Can they last at least 1/2hr before breach? They’ll make recommendations for improvements, and then the pouring concrete starts. Or something like that.
Walls are stupid and expensive. They can be defeated and scaled in areas that are not patrolled. It may be a little difficult but it can be done if you have time.
Mine field are 100% effective. They are cheap and easy and very quick to deploy. Put the signs out in multiple languages that say the next 300 meters are a mine field and if you cross it you will die. Problem solved.
This seems insanely cruel. Without doubt some will try to cross and die but it will be very very few particularly after the first few deaths. The word gets around quickly.
Each year many hundreds die in the deserts of California, New Mexico and particularly Arizona when they try to cross the border in isolated places. The desert is a killer in the summer. You need water and it is a lot of water if you are walking for two or three days in the heat. In 2016 the known deaths of illegal border crossing in the desert was 316. I grew up in the desert and know how hot and vast it is. I assure the real number is much higher but I have no idea how much higher. There are many bleached and white bones out in the desert that none know about.
What is more humane I ask? A mine field that kills a few people and after such no one will dare cross, or a barbed wire fence on the Arizona border that anyone can cross and die in the desert. Many cross that barbed wire fence and die in the desert or at the hands of the coyote smugglers.
Both are bad, but which in more humane?
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Grew up on the border, speak Spanish, married to a Mexican National now a USA citizen with multiple degrees from Texas Universities and not in the social sciences. I know of which I speak.
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