Gotro asked when he last worked undercover with biker gangs and the agent looked to Reyna and asked if it was OK to answer. 11:25 AM - 12 Oct 2017
The parties retreated to the judge's chambers to discuss it. 11:26 AM - 12 Oct 2017
He said the last time he infiltrated a gang was with the Mongols in 2008. 11:28 AM - 12 Oct 2017
He has not infiltrated the Bandidos but worked surveillance on the Bandidos in Calif. in 2002. 11:30 AM - 12 Oct 2017
He said Bandidos membership is always changing and he has not seen a report listing the number of its membership. 11:32 AM - 12 Oct 2017
She asked if a biker wearing a three-piece patch and a 1 percenter diamond is a member of a criminal street gang. 11:41 AM - 12 Oct 2017
He answered more likely than not, but he would have to investigate further. 11:42 AM - 12 Oct 2017
He said he has heard that the Bandido patch "Expect No Mercy" means the wearer has committed an act of violence for the gang. 11:50 AM - 12 Oct 2017
Gotro asked if it couldn't mean expect no mercy from a society that judges bikers by their appearance and assumes they are criminals. 11:51 AM - 12 Oct 2017
Kozlowski said it behooves bikers wearing such patches to come up with alternative meanings for them because they know police see them. 11:53 AM - 12 Oct 2017
Gotro asked if many of the same rules and expectations that govern membership and behavior for gangs can apply to law enforcement agencies. 11:58 AM - 12 Oct 2017
He agreed. 11:58 AM - 12 Oct 2017
It's time for lunch break. Back at 1:15 11:59 AM - 12 Oct 2017