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The jury has been deliberating two hours this morning with no contact with the court. That's about 11 hours total. 11:05 AM - 10 Nov 2017

Just as I say that, we have a note from the jury. Stand by. 11:08 AM - 10 Nov 2017

The judge is waiting for the parties to return to court. 11:13 AM - 10 Nov 2017

162 posted on 11/10/2017 9:18:31 AM PST by Elderberry
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The lawyers are still conferring with the judge in his chambers. 11:22 AM - 10 Nov 2017

Casie Gotro, Carrizal's attorney, and Carrizal just left the courtroom. No announcements have been made by the judge. 11:26 AM - 10 Nov 2017

164 posted on 11/10/2017 9:28:25 AM PST by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry
At risk of some duplication in the below of what you've posted:

I'm getting impression (from Witherspoon and other sources) that "P" may be a hold out against acquittal, instead of conviction, though I could be wrong...and see fresh tweets that the jury has decided on one count...and the judge has sent them back for more deliberation over Gotro's objections which appear to me to be seeking mistrial (rather than risk that the hold-out is against acquittal rather than against conviction).

If "P" who has had contact with Cossacks, and according to Witherspoon's tweet" was holding out against conviction of the Bandido Carrizal, does the man not know that acquittal for Carrizal (which could be fitting, not because the man is necessarily innocent of all, but because he appears may not be *exactly* enough guilty as charged) would not be the same as betrayal of Cossacks, and could serve to help Cossack defendants in the future as much as possibly harm some number of those? Judgement should be neutral.

Next up after Carrizal should be Clendennen, or one of about three others who have filed demand for speedy trial -- provided the attorneys assigned to prosecute Clendennen decide attempt win conviction against that particular defendant and those others, in the first place. In which case, if they do not, they should formally drop the charges. No more "Book of Waco" as the book of procedure to follow, please.

I doubt we'd see Rayna rushing to bring somebody else to trial real fast-like whichever way this one (Carrizal) goes. If he tried, there would be a howling heard that would echo maybe all the way to DC and the Supreme.


Two more;

Tommy Witherspoon‏ @TSpoonFeed 36s36 seconds ago
The note from the jury said that some jurors are willing to wait a month and are not willing to consider a review of the evidence.

8m8 minutes ago
Judge overrules her objection and sends Allen charge back to jury.

170 posted on 11/10/2017 9:57:24 AM PST by BlueDragon (..and that's the thing do you recognize the bells of truth when you hear them ring)
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