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HE WAS NOT ALONE!
10-08-17 | TEDWINT

Posted on 10/08/2017 7:24:18 AM PDT by MostlyAnti-Lib

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To: marktwain

It is not like he would bring all ten or twelve suitcases in at once. He could have brought in suitcases during different shifts at the hotel so it was not like the same hotel employees saw him going back and forth with a suspicious number of things in a few minutes. At least that is what I imagine. Some old guy toting two or three bags, three times a day over maybe two days, in a hotel with thousands of people - who would give him a second glance?


21 posted on 10/08/2017 8:55:00 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Ethan Edwards

Holy moly, I totally forgot about that aspect. Yeah, they have what’s called “SHOT Show” every year and it attracts hunters and shooters from all over North America. I’ve never been to it, but I can’t imagine the kind of guns and ammo that must be schlepped around during that week.


22 posted on 10/08/2017 9:00:08 AM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: gaijin

With two windows broken out the airflow would allow the shooter to keep breathing. Otherwise the gunpowder smoke, even with smokeless powder, would build up quickly.

I looked at some banners and other type flags in various videos during the shooting and while there wasn’t much of a breeze; there was some. Enough to clear the room allowing the shooter to keep breathing good air.

As prepared as this guy was; I bet he found a shed somewhere out in the desert (not hard to do) then started shooting hundreds of rounds from inside so the flash couldn’t easily be seen from outside just like in a hotel room. He probably found out the shed filled up with an acrid tasting, eye burning, smoke and fumes hence the two windows at different ends of the suite being broken out. The cross breeze was just enough even though it wasn’t much.

That’s my theory anyway.


23 posted on 10/08/2017 9:01:12 AM PDT by Boomer (The dem party has become the North Korea of American politics; unreasonable, dictatorial, fascist.)
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To: Boomer

Also, if you got to any indoor shooting range, one of the things easy to notice is the sound of big fans moving air through the range to move the smoke and fumes out quickly and away from the shooters on the line.


24 posted on 10/08/2017 9:04:12 AM PDT by Boomer (The dem party has become the North Korea of American politics; unreasonable, dictatorial, fascist.)
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To: Boomer
As prepared as this guy was; I bet he found a shed somewhere out in the desert (not hard to do) then started shooting hundreds of rounds from inside so the flash couldn’t easily be seen from outside just like in a hotel room. He probably found out the shed filled up with an acrid tasting, eye burning, smoke and fumes hence the two windows at different ends of the suite being broken out. The cross breeze was just enough even though it wasn’t much.

It would seem the logical thing to plan ahead for would be to get a couple portable fans and have them in the room to help keep the air moving around and somewhat clear. He couldn't really predict ahead of time if there would be any breeze that night or not.

25 posted on 10/08/2017 9:11:37 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib
The weapons cache Paddock hauled up to the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel could have been done with a few trips on a luggage cart.


26 posted on 10/08/2017 9:48:39 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Trump continues to have all the right enemies.)
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib

Everyone freaking out about how he could move that much hardware. I don’t understand why?

Ever use a luggage cart?


27 posted on 10/08/2017 9:51:26 AM PDT by EBH ( May God Save the Republic)
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To: deport

Maybe the attack was a diversion for something else going on.


28 posted on 10/08/2017 9:57:48 AM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib

He wasn’t alone but his $6k hooker didn’t do much except help him act out his rape fantasies.


29 posted on 10/08/2017 9:59:41 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: ehard

Could it be he was triggered by the shootings at San Bernardino, Orlando and Seattle Mall? All were committed with semi-autos before the sudden rise of the 33 weapons he obtained in the last year. Of the 47 found in the room and his two houses, what is the complete list of what they were and when they were purchased?

Could it be in his sick mind he saw nothing being done about the semi’s and how much did the MSM harping about something needed to be done, about automatics or machine guns, drive him over the edge?

We now have the knowledge and optics of the arsenal he had in the room. What we don’t know is if he was diagnosed with some sort of terminal ailment. It would not be the first time that some kook decided to go out in a blaze of glory and possibly this one had an agenda and he knew how the left would play it.


30 posted on 10/08/2017 10:37:37 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib

He was not elderly


31 posted on 10/08/2017 10:45:21 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: LittleBillyInfidel

The assumption is also that he did it all in one trip. He was reportedly there for several days. He could have done multiple trips.


32 posted on 10/08/2017 10:50:18 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: jonrick46

Point taken.


33 posted on 10/08/2017 11:01:12 AM PDT by MostlyAnti-Lib
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To: gaijin

Geez I can’t believe I have to do this, this is so depressing:

the basic principle in any armed defense is you must account for and cover all avenues of approach.

Like why did he set up a bunch of cameras..? did he perchance suddenly start at a new audio-visual hobby...? no, that was to tell him that cops were coming down the hall to get him.

He was covering that Avenue of approach.

why did he break out the other window..?

to provide him the opportunity to lay down fire if that was the direction from which responders would be coming to get him.

like cops arriving for example, or maybe victims would run to that side of the hotel; if the window on that side were pre broken, he could then continue shooting.

wow some real mental retardation on this thread, here.

Freaking SCARY.

Apparently some people also have never heard of wheeled luggage, or bellhop carts, or going back to one’s car again and again over the course of FIVE days.


34 posted on 10/08/2017 11:12:12 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib

I am going with Islamic motivated terrorism.

What other motivation offers rewards significant enough to go to the trouble of doing this?

I’ve been saying for awhile that the Father of Internet Jihad, Anwar Al Awlaki has been given an increasingly effective platform by Google’s You Tube.

This makes the fact that he doesn’t fit the profile not a problem.

In fact AAA’s Youtube videos have had a large impact on almost every terror attack you can name.

In the meantime, people critical of Islam have been getting their YouTube accounts pulled, as many FREEPERS know.

The REAL answer to this violence is NOT gun control but for the West to pass child pornography like laws covering AAA videos.

Here is an org that agrees with me and has a lot of info on this topic:

https://www.counterextremism.com/

Sign up for their email alerts to see how many attacks there are every day.


35 posted on 10/08/2017 11:14:08 AM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: gaijin

I’m going to give her a pretty big piece of evidence supporting the idea there was more than one shooter:

first off auto High rates of fire are very easy with her slide stock but generally over the course of one 30 round magazine there will be one stoppage at least.

it’s hard to get 30 shots off together but this guy wasn’t doing that, he was getting several times he was getting over 100 shots continuously..!

that’s extremely rare with a slide fire stock.

the next thing is if you have a 40 round capacity mag and especially if we’re talking about a 100 round beta mag, there will come commonly be maybe one stop or more.

Generally you’re okay with a 30-round magazine and especially a 20 round magazine but 40 and above..?

it’s notoriously difficult to get them to run perfectly, and the Chinese knockoff high-capacity magazines easily have 300% more problems.

The preferred Narrative of the establishment is that this single shooter was contending with a slide fire stock and ultra high capacity magazines BUT as if by Magic he was getting these fluent 100-round shot strings.

I find that virtually impossible.


36 posted on 10/08/2017 11:21:30 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: LittleBillyInfidel

Yes ! This !

This whole post is what I was saying a few days ago. Media crews today are more common, and even youtubers are traveling like this.


37 posted on 10/08/2017 11:48:11 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib
Why do you keep referring to this guy as "elderly"? He was only 64.

And at that age many "elderly" men could care less about social media. Why do younger people think everyone HAS to be on social media?

I'm 70 years old. I can still most everything I did when I was younger except to still run marathons.

And I'm not involved with any of that social media crap you describe that you assume he scrubbed. If he was a private man, why would he need some phony Facebook page?

Your poor assumptions negate whatever theory you have. Indicates you haven't thought this whole thing out. You lost me at the very beginning.

38 posted on 10/08/2017 12:44:07 PM PDT by HotHunt
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To: Ethan Edwards
There was a Las Vegas gun show scheduled for Oct. 6-7.

Anybody know whether it actually took place or was it canceled in deference to the victims of the attack?

39 posted on 10/08/2017 12:50:52 PM PDT by HotHunt
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To: HotHunt

I read somewhere that it was cancelled.


40 posted on 10/08/2017 12:54:46 PM PDT by azkathy (We the people are FED UP-pun intended!)
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