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To: Fantasywriter

What part of the word “ORIGINAL” in both of Hawaii’s verification statements don’t you understand? In 2008 and again in 2009 the state of Hawai’i (which under Article IV of the Constitution has sole discretion to determine the authenticity and validity of all records promulgated by that state) verified that Barack Obama’s “ORIGINAL” vital records were on file and that his “ORIGINAL” birth certificate documented his birth in Hawai’i.
A Certificate of Live Birth is nothing more or less than a computer printout of the most legally relevant information that is on the vault edition. If any state’s COLB can be used to obtain a U.S. Passport than it is good for other official legal purposes. Hawaii’s COLBs could be used to obtain U.S. Passports in 2008 and in 2012.

A COLB was what was released to a person requesting birth documentation. Since the “birther” controversy Hawai’i has changed the name to “Certified Copy of Birth” for what they release to any applicant seeking a copy of their “birth certificate.” There are no more COLBs nor is there long form/short form confusion.
Both Mitt Romney and Donald Trump released copies of their respective Michigan and New York short form computer print out birth certficates as well.
If any legitimate, official legal authority had ever needed to see the original, vault edition Obama birth certificate for themselves, Hawaii Revised Statute 338-18(b) permits inspection by “a person whose right to inspect is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction.”
No legitimate, official legal authority ever needed to get a court order for inspection or a congressional subpoena which has the legal force of a court order.


170 posted on 09/06/2017 1:52:09 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

You know the person speaking of a vault copy LFBC is lying because the statement doesn’t match the facts. Both on the eventually released BC and in the birth announcements Stanley Ann’s home address is listed as Kalanianaole Highway. But a resident who lived at that address during the period of SAD’s pregnancy says SAD wasn’t there then. It’s been confirmed that SAD lived at that address during her UoH fall term in ‘60. But after that she was gone.

Add to this the fact that SAD’s first documented sighting since ‘60 was in Seattle. She had a newborn with her.

SAD no more gave birth in HI than in Kenya. The odds, when ALL evidence is taken into account, are on Vancouver.

Your precious pols are lying. Which is what politicians do.


171 posted on 09/06/2017 2:08:26 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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