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To: Olog-hai

The left in Europe associates itself with the extreme left. Same as here.


22 posted on 08/19/2017 8:55:01 AM PDT by Redmen4ever (u)
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To: Redmen4ever
Technically, there is no “center-left”. The goals of the left were always the same; the means to get there were always in place too, whether at a Fabian or Marxist (revolutionary) pace. The Sixteenth and Seventeenth Amendments both modified the USA from a republic into a democracy, and Friedrich Engels said the following about the goals thereof in The Principles of Communism:
  1. Will it be possible for private property to be abolished at one stroke?

    No, no more than existing forces of production can at one stroke be multiplied to the extent necessary for the creation of a communal society.

    In all probability, the proletarian revolution will transform existing society gradually and will be able to abolish private property only when the means of production are available in sufficient quantity.

  2. What will be the course of this revolution?

    Above all, it will establish a democratic constitution, and through this, the direct or indirect dominance of the proletariat. Direct in England, where the proletarians are already a majority of the people; indirect in France and Germany, where the majority of the people consists not only of proletarians, but also of small peasants and petty bourgeois who are in the process of falling into the proletariat, who are more and more dependent in all their political interests on the proletariat, and who must, therefore, soon adapt to the demands of the proletariat. Perhaps this will cost a second struggle, but the outcome can only be the victory of the proletariat.

    Democracy would be wholly valueless to the proletariat if it were not immediately used as a means for putting through measures directed against private property and ensuring the livelihood of the proletariat. …
There is not a single person on the left who has not worked towards this goal or worked against it.
24 posted on 08/19/2017 9:17:18 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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