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Question about .30 Carbine

Posted on 08/18/2017 3:57:43 PM PDT by VR-21

I've just become the owner of an Inland Mfg. M1 Carbine (reproduction). I'm familiar with the weapon but I've never owned or fed one and I'd like some wisdom about what might be the best ammunition for it. I want to buy a bulk quantity, but I don't have any knowledge about the going brands (Aguila, PPU, S&B etc.), and what issues there might be with regard to reliability and accuracy. I'd appreciate any input from those more knowledgeable about the weapon. Thanks.


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To: VR-21

Glad to help, have fun with your new gun(errr weapon that is, an old DI is glaring down at me 8-P)


41 posted on 08/18/2017 9:06:01 PM PDT by woerm (student of history)
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To: VR-21

Congrats on your new M1!

Sadly, I don’t have one or much to offer, except a story from a friend of mine. His Dad was a doctor in the Aleutians during WWII, and the biggest danger they had was polar bears.

Well, they quickly discovered that their M1 Carbines only made the bears mad, so if a bear was wandering around the base, they would hide in their tents and chuck grenades at it until it went away.

Anyway, I hope you enjoy yours a lot. I’d love to get one, but given prices and ammunition, I’d rather have an M1A or something more potent (with a more useable ammo supply).


42 posted on 08/18/2017 11:05:48 PM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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To: VR-21

Carbines are great. Fun to shoot and easier to score hits with than a sidearm. Never had problems with GI extractors, but all the ones I’ve fired weren’t reliable with aftermarket 30 round magazines. Korean made magazines seemed good to go.

You’ll hear people say the round is a pipsqueak, hardly more dangerous than a Red Ryder.

Read up on Jim Cirilo, Audie Murphy and John George. They would all take exception, and so would the men they killed with the pipsqueak rifle.


43 posted on 08/19/2017 12:02:28 AM PDT by M1911A1 (President Trump. Ahhhhhhhh.....)
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To: smokingfrog

Same here, overworked and under paid.


44 posted on 08/19/2017 1:46:03 AM PDT by davetex (Location: The Alamo)
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To: VR-21

Always try several types of rounds before buying bulk. It took a while to find out my Rossi Carbine (chambered for .357 and 38 Spec) fed Blazer .357 rounds better than others which tended to try to hang up when levering them in. Got some Blazer .357 round just for the carbine and use others in the handgun.


45 posted on 08/19/2017 3:32:37 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: VR-21

I believe that was with the 357 Maximum a round I have zero experience with that one but my 30’s show no cutting.....Another little toy I seen the other day was a 30 Carbine round loaded with a 200 grain round nose. It was being used in a Suppressed Thompson Center Contender. He was getting 900 fps and was amazingly quiet. His plans are to build a suppressed 30 Carbine.


46 posted on 08/19/2017 5:27:11 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: M1911A1; VR-21

Amen to that last sentence; those guys would know.

Regarding reliability with 30 round mags...replace the magazine catch with an M2 catch...problem solved.


47 posted on 08/19/2017 6:08:09 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot (10/10/51-7/7/16 RIP Dad, I'll be missing you until I cross over to Eternity)
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To: SirLurkedalot

PRVI Partisan soft point ammo is excellent, with consistent accuracy and excellent terminal performance. Agree with replacing the magazine catch which has an extra shoulder to hold the 30 round mags in place during recoil. Keep the extractor clean and lubed before you go complaining about aftermarket mags (been there done that.)


48 posted on 08/19/2017 7:04:57 AM PDT by BDParrish (One representative for every 30,000 persons!)
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To: BDParrish; VR-21

Yeah I was spared the 30 rnd mag reliability headache by my uncle (FBI certified firearms instructor, former NSW vet, former LEO and all-around savage) on that and more.

The M1 Carbine is very underrated, IMHO.


49 posted on 08/19/2017 7:19:53 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot (10/10/51-7/7/16 RIP Dad, I'll be missing you until I cross over to Eternity)
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To: Dusty Road

I stand corrected. It was the 357 Maximum I was thinking about. That Contender round sounds wicked.


50 posted on 08/19/2017 7:59:53 AM PDT by VR-21
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To: VR-21

Cabela’s sold a one of a kind collector M-1 Garand last year with 500 rounds of S&B. In the first 100 rounds there was a double charge that blew the side of the housing out and destroyed the beautiful walnut stock. Unrepairable. That tells me quality control is not good.

When it comes to ammo screwing up I don’t take any chances. Its lucky the incident happened in a Garand. They are built like a tank. Any regular bolt action weapon it would have come out like a hand grenade and caused serious injury.


51 posted on 08/19/2017 8:17:56 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: trebb

One of my favorite firearms is my 94 Winchester chambered for .357 Mag. When I clocked my loads (I use 158gr. Hornady XTP’s over some 2400) I was astonished at how much higher velocity they had out of the rifle. They will literally hit (with good accuracy) as hard at 150 yards as a 4” revolver will across a card table. No feeding or reliability issues either. I absolutely love that rifle, and when paired with my S&W Highway Patrolman I feel rich and good looking (and well armed).


52 posted on 08/19/2017 9:08:56 AM PDT by VR-21
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To: wastoute
AR is so reliable and inexpensive if you want a rifle to actually shoot

I'd like to find something that has the quality of a good AR but the looks of an M1 carbine or a mini-14: full wood stock, none of the "tactical" bling bling.

Any suggestions??

53 posted on 08/19/2017 9:21:50 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon (I'm an unreconstructed Free Trader and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Yowzer. I’ll make sure not to put any of that in my 1903.


54 posted on 08/19/2017 9:23:36 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon (I'm an unreconstructed Free Trader and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

Ruger mini30 ranch .. wood stock, garand action, 7.62x39


55 posted on 08/19/2017 9:27:04 AM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: VR-21
.357 rounds leave my revolver at around 1280 fps. They come out of the 16' barrel of the carbine at 1800 (or so) fps.

The carbine has a small stock and the .357 rounds can beat you up a bit after a while. It is a lot more docile when using 38 Special rounds. My rounds are more docile but I reckon they would take a deer out as far as 150 yards - if one is good enough with the iron sights. Got it more on a whim than with thought of any real utility - but a firearm is a firearm.....the lever action helped round out my "arsenal"...

56 posted on 08/19/2017 9:32:27 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

Well, a mini 14 or an M1 carbine, I guess. Why the fascination with wood?


57 posted on 08/29/2017 3:00:01 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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