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Greenfield: Understanding the McMaster NSC Purge
Sultan Knish ^ | 8/9/17 | Greenfield

Posted on 08/09/2017 8:19:55 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell

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To: Neidermeyer

Read post 31, and the twitter links I posted here.


41 posted on 08/09/2017 9:40:26 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

(1) Propaganda? THEY generate it. Not me.

Bannon still actively engages and attends NSC meetings — despite White House saying he was removed


42 posted on 08/09/2017 9:48:08 AM PDT by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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To: dynoman

Why does this Thomas Wictor have more credibility than Daniel Greenfield? Where does he get his intimate knowledge of the relationships and actions among the players, i.e. Bannon, Kushner, McMaster, Trump, Flynn, et al.? Who are his sources inside the White House or is everything he tweets simply speculation? What are his credentials?


43 posted on 08/09/2017 9:49:05 AM PDT by Micro aggressor (NSC, Trump, McMaster)
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To: Louis Foxwell

I’m sorry, but this is nothing more than the same baseless anti-McMaster screed from the NeverTrump holdovers, republished on a notorious clickbait website.

The problem with Fake News is that there is as much on the Right as on the Left. The biggest problem is that liberal Fake News sites falsely attack conservatives. The conservative Fake News sites attack other conservatives.


44 posted on 08/09/2017 9:49:07 AM PDT by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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To: dynoman; LS
The problem is people getting stuck staring at weeds and ignoring the big picture.

Perhaps, but to be completely mercenary, maybe that's a good thing. That is, while some/many are wasting their time and/or emotional energy, the smart money is already preparing for more economic activity and financial rewards.

By way of example, it's customary to leave Dodger games early. Why, to beat the traffic of course. By the 7th inning, unless the game is close, interesting and/or important, it's just not worth getting stuck.

Same true with these palace shenanigans; it's all over except for the crying (by the left). Trump isn't going anywhere, in fact, just like Midway marked the end of Japan's 6 month offensive, the realization that the tide has changed will be reflected when everyone gets back to town.

The astute have already figuratively headed for the (DC) exits; there's money to be made, fun to be had, and MAGA to be enjoyed.

45 posted on 08/09/2017 9:52:35 AM PDT by semantic
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To: semantic

LOL! That’s kind of a brutal outlook.

I actually feel sorry for those who are wasting their time and/or emotional energy on garbage like #FireMcMaster. That’s why I try to change their minds.

Maybe it’s a lost cause.


46 posted on 08/09/2017 10:01:07 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Bratch

People should click in and read the rest.


47 posted on 08/09/2017 10:04:50 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Micro aggressor

It’s not about Wictor’s credibility. When two news articles directly contradict each other we know the media is what’s not credible. Read the tweets. All he’s doing is linking contradictory news articles.


48 posted on 08/09/2017 10:06:55 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

Dynoman ,

Your posts and twitter links are unconvincing in the face of THE TRUTH// I sincerely hope “booger” is being kept around just to entrap Soros and others in his orbit...

THIS is truth... McMaster’s ties to Obama, Susan Rice, CFR, Soros, Bilderberg and John McCain are well documented. “Deep State” should be his middle name, a veritable slithering reptile straight off the Soros snake farm.


49 posted on 08/09/2017 10:22:49 AM PDT by Neidermeyer (Show me a peaceful Muslim and I will show you a heretic to the Koran.)
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To: semantic

I think as far as Russia is concerned, you’re 100% correct.

I’m very concerned over the NORK situation. If Trump acts, McTurd, Feinstein, Paul & others will scream “warmonger.”

If he doesn’t other Ds and RINOs will say “He’s neglectful.”


50 posted on 08/09/2017 10:42:13 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS

“Freepers must understand there is a HUGE wing of Trump supporters who are 100% isolationist”

And you must, and do, understand that there are a number of Republicans who are 100% globalist and interventionist. They passionately despise everything this HUGE number of Trump voters wants.

So the question becomes, why should we sit by and let them drive? Time for these failures to get to the back of the bus. They have brought America to financial ruin, and to a state of constant war that has zero bearing on the lives of Americans. I couldn’t care less who runs Syria. It doesn’t serve my interest to dump around 12 billion a year on Afghanistan.
What you call “isolationist” is more seen as a family wanting their OWN household taken flawless care of before worrying about people down the street. While “isolationist” is used as a modern slander word, the fact is, the globalists have focused 100% of goals that we simple minded isolationists value far less than they do.

PS, and actual “100% isolationists” are rather rare to run across. But that is the name applied if someone opposes wars that protect us from nothing, letting America rot while building things for foreigners, and an absolute orgy of immigration clearly designed to change the culture of OUR nation. That is not isolationist.

Actual isolationism is very rare.


51 posted on 08/09/2017 10:46:46 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: dynoman

“Read post 27. I’ll believe Thomas Wictor and LS over you anyday.”

Why? Why are they the final authority and we should all go back to sleep. You pull them out like some kind of talisman. We can present you with people just as respected who think the opposite.

People are judging the acts of McMaster, and not looking for celebrity endorsements. I have not seen a single public act or statement of McMaster showing loyalty to Trumps campaigned upon platform... none, zero, zilch. You’ll excuse me for believing my own eyes.


52 posted on 08/09/2017 10:55:48 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: dynoman

“It’s crap intended to take down Trump admin officials just like Flynn was taken down.”

Flynn was taken down -precisely- to make way for a McMaster. They didn’t oppose Flynn for any reason whatsoever except his stated policy, history, and direction.
They wanted a globalist islamophile, and they got one put in.

Maybe you should wake up.


53 posted on 08/09/2017 11:02:59 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: dynoman

“The Thomas Wictor tweets are a view from 10,000 feet of the weeds on the ground. “

Interesting analogy. And from 10,000 feet, you can’t very will see the grass burrs have taken over the lawn. These lofty opinions are merely the opinions of players who have helped make the swamp what it is. Think on that.

Trump wasn’t elected to take us back to the policies of that idiot Bush administration, as much as the GOP works to convince themselves of that.


54 posted on 08/09/2017 11:08:08 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: Neidermeyer
THIS is truth... McMaster’s ties to Obama, Susan Rice, CFR, Soros, Bilderberg and John McCain are well documented. “Deep State” should be his middle name, a veritable slithering reptile straight off the Soros snake farm.

Actually, no. It is the same anti-McMaster BS spread by the same NeverTrump writers who are making lots of money attracting the uneducated to their clickbait websites.

Rich Higgins was fired because he ignored a direct order. Higgins is a good man, but in battle he would have been shot. His penaty in DC will be a $500K job on K Street.

Please remember there as many Fake News sites on the Right as on the Left. The problem is, Liberals use Fake News to attack Conservatives. Conservatives use fake news to attack each other.

55 posted on 08/09/2017 11:29:38 AM PDT by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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To: DesertRhino

Thomas isn’t part of the swamp. Neither is LS.


56 posted on 08/09/2017 11:31:10 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: DesertRhino

“Flynn was taken down -precisely- to make way for a McMaster.”

How do you know that to be an absolute and exclusive fact?


57 posted on 08/09/2017 11:33:20 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: DesertRhino

“Why? Why are they the final authority and we should all go back to sleep.”

I was responding to 9YearLurker, are they a final authority?


58 posted on 08/09/2017 11:35:52 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

Greenfield is not speculating over contradictory news stories. He’s presenting factual information that, when taken as a whole, indicates something terribly wrong in the NSC in general, and with McMaster in particular. No one who acts in the way McMaster has acted can be said to have the best interests of Trump or the US in mind. You don’t fill the NSC with Islamists, Obama acolytes, and pals of Huma Abedin and Valerie Jarrett while at the same time targeting for termination, Trump loyalists, and those who are telling the truth about Islamic terrorism if you’re truly on Trump’s side. These are all red flags that we (and Trump) ignore at our peril. I’ll trust Greenfield over Wictor any day.


59 posted on 08/09/2017 12:48:30 PM PDT by Micro aggressor (NSC, Trump, McMaster)
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To: Louis Foxwell

we elected DJT to Drain the Swamp, not to hire a new Asst Chief Alligator to expand it

Please pray that President Trump gets around ASAP, FAST, SOOOOOOON, to really Draining the WashDC Swamp, including all the IslamoNazi agents, moles, facilitators, enablers, and sympathizers in the Snake Dept, the military, defense, intelligence, security agencies (mostly imported by Obama of course, but some from even before).... These enemies of America or our Values will soon succeed in destroying USA if they are not removed from positions of power and influence in what is supposed to be “our” government, QUICKLY!) Drain the Swamp, DJT! Please...Drain the Damned Swamp!


60 posted on 08/09/2017 1:17:57 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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