[Yosemitest]

We've been there, and done that before.
Read your history.
Sooner or later one side or the other has to be buried.
Have you not been listening to the other side's chant about "Top down; bottom up; inside out t" ?
They mean it.
The two different sides can not exist much longer without one destroying the other.
Read your Bible (Daniel, Ezekiel. and Revelation) !

[longfellowsmuse]

The state is one of the beasts of revelation. Government can never replace God, but for many government is the new religion and the welfare/nanny state their God. We must get our nation right with the triune God of our founding or no number of insurgencies or conservative revolutions or even civil wars will save us.