Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Geert Wilders on Trump speech: 'Islam is the problem'
WND ^ | May 22, 2017 | Art Moore

Posted on 05/23/2017 6:48:15 AM PDT by Ray76

Wilders explained why he believes the definition of the global threat articulated by President Trump in his historic speech Sunday in Saudi Arabia is off the mark.

“Islam is the problem,” said Wilders, the leader of the Party for Freedom, now the country’s second largest in Parliament.

“We can only deal with [the threat] if we first face the truth, [which] might not be too politically correct, but still is the truth, and that is that Islam — and not Islamism or radical Islam, but Islam — is an evil ideology like communism or fascism that has no place in a free society,” he told WND.

Wilders applauded Trump for frankly recognizing the “fight between good and evil” engulfing the West, but the Dutchman insisted the evil isn’t confined to certain people within the community of Islam.

“It’s not that we have two different kinds of Islam,” he said.

“I acknowledge the fact that we have two kinds of people. There are moderate Muslims and non-moderate Muslims. But there is really only one Islam, and this is the Islam of the life of Muhammad, of the Quran, of the Hadiths, of the Sunnah.”

Awash in cultural relativism, he said, establishment politicians and academics “fool the people by saying that all cultures are equal.”

“I am not ashamed to say that our culture is far better than the Islamic culture, which is a culture of barbarism,” he said. “We should be honest and speak about the truth, and this, unfortunately, is the truth.”

Wilders argues it’s “impossible for the ideology of Islam to assimilate in a free society.”

“People can. Ideology cannot.”

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS:
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-60 last
To: dynoman

SOME muslim countries were secularized in the 1950’s and 60’s. They embraced western values and dress and turned away from Islam. What you saw in SOME muslim countries was a falling away of Islam.
Saudi Arabia reacted by funding religious schools to bring them back to Islam.
The people who populate the Taliban, ISIS, Abu Sayyaf, Boko Haram and myriad other Islamic groups were educated in those madrassas, taught the true Islam.

Islam as an ideology must be eradicated because of the threat it openly states that it is to the rest of humanity.
We are willing to coexist, buy their “holy” text demands that they exterminate us.


41 posted on 05/23/2017 8:18:17 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: FourtySeven
I read somewhere, now forget where, that the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, when here in the US for some college coursework, was scandalized by the way women and men interacted with each other at a school dance (remember those?). This, according to what I read, was one of the reasons for his radicalization.

IIRC, and I might not, this same source claimed that the reason he was scandalized was because no one at the dance talked to him/tried to interact with him. He was just invited as some trophy in other words.

Anyway very interesting if true. I’m not sure this even fits in your timeline (I think the MB was founded earlier in the last century). But if true an interesting glimpse into how such radicalization such hatred starts. From some of the smallest things, things we may consider even trivial. Kind of puts even more importance on acting like a Christian every day, with whoever you meet.


I like your comments.

However, I would add that the psychological makeup of most Muslims is complex and almost defies western analysis. They cannot be fixed, adjusted, moderated, reformed, etc. by any method. They are, as they are, simply unfit for the modern world and shackled by a medieval ideology. To understand them, or at least to try to understand them is interesting. To think we can change them is absurd.

42 posted on 05/23/2017 8:23:16 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Is it not too late to appoint a special counsel to investigate Hillary's crimes?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: The_Media_never_lie

And some of this in the Middle East as in Libya seems driven by Tribalism from what I can tell. Crazy world.


43 posted on 05/23/2017 8:26:09 AM PDT by BeadCounter (Trump; most pro-life president ever.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: Ray76

It’s a challenge to live up to the claim that it’s only “radical” mohammendans who pose a threat.
That there can be a moderate Islam.

Islam has to change or it has to be eradicated.


44 posted on 05/23/2017 8:27:58 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: Ray76

I blame it on Mohammedanism. It is rotten at its core and at its core is Mohammed.

You can’t base a religion on the words and actions of a murderer, a liar, a thief, a slave taker and a pedophile and expect good to come from it.


45 posted on 05/23/2017 9:01:50 AM PDT by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lurkinanloomin

“Islam as an ideology must be eradicated “

Humans won’t be doing that.


46 posted on 05/23/2017 9:22:30 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: Ray76

Stark differences in the way the founders of Islam and Christianity lived.

The “Christian” crusaders did not live the way their founder lived: 1) Love God and keep his commandments. 2) Love your neighbor as yourself.

Then when asked “who is my neighbor” Christianity’s founder gave the example of the good Samaritan, your neighbor is anyone closest to you at any given moment. Love them. If people would do that it would change the world.


47 posted on 05/23/2017 9:28:01 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Ray76

President Trump needs to stop trying to be a diplomat. He’s either getting bad advice or not listening to good advice.


48 posted on 05/23/2017 10:24:35 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dynoman
...your neighbor is anyone closest to you at any given moment. Love them. If people would do that it would change the world.

If you have Muslims close to you, love them as commanded, treat them kindly or at least civilly, but be armed and never turn your back on them.

49 posted on 05/23/2017 10:36:11 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: JimRed

Oh, and I forgot- watch them closely.


50 posted on 05/23/2017 10:37:57 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: dynoman

If it weren’t for the “Christians” that defended Europe, we’d all be bowing to Mecca.


51 posted on 05/23/2017 11:14:41 AM PDT by BeadCounter (Trump; most pro-life president ever.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: BeadCounter

Yeah well if only Jesus would have established the earthly kingdom some thought he should, we wouldn’t be dealing with Islam. But Jesus didn’t do that did he.


52 posted on 05/23/2017 11:27:47 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: dynoman

Actually, that’s a good idea, what we need is another Crusade.


53 posted on 05/23/2017 12:29:22 PM PDT by BeadCounter (Trump; most pro-life president ever.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | View Replies]

To: dynoman

What point are you trying to make?


54 posted on 05/23/2017 1:13:20 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: BeadCounter

Or Islam needs a reformation and the New Testament.


55 posted on 05/23/2017 1:24:50 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]

To: Ray76

Humans won’t be eradicating Islam as an ideology, ever.


56 posted on 05/23/2017 1:27:02 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: dynoman

What makes you so sure?


57 posted on 05/23/2017 4:44:43 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

To: Ray76

Read post 52.

How many people in this world are Muslim? You really think humans have a chance at eradicating Islam??


58 posted on 05/23/2017 5:03:49 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]

To: dynoman

You didn’t answer the question.

I believe humans will abandon it.


59 posted on 05/23/2017 5:18:50 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: Ray76

I did, and I don’t.


60 posted on 05/23/2017 6:30:00 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 59 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-60 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson