Posted on 05/06/2017 5:43:53 AM PDT by PeaRidge
My friend, who lived in France for five years, and now in US, thinks our new health system is not only unnecessarily inadequate, but unsophisticated.
She says that in France that:
You get immediate appointments
Immediate treatment
World class results
Mideast sheiks go there
Relatively low cost meds (if you have to pay at all)
Latest improvements
All Free
To pay for this, she says All French citizens pay taxes.
Everyone pays the same percentage tax....35%
One page tax filing
To fellow Freepers......truth please.
In 2000, I was permanent residence of UK. I had back pain and other problem in 2000. I was unable to get appointment and wait period was 3 month. I called my Doctor here in USA. Got appointment immediately in US. After treatment, went back again to London to pack up.
Medical system is horrible in UK. My brother-in-law needed hip replacement, because he was unable to stand and pain was too much for him to handle. Wait period was one year unless and until he breaks his hip. So my sister suggested her GP, she can break it now. After using all scare tactics, he got operated after 15 days.
The following is very big picture:
Canada, UK and Sweden - health care is largely paid by taxes (that are quite high), health care is delivered largely by government-run hospitals and clinics.
France - health care is largely paid by taxes (that are quite high), health care is delivered largely by private hospitals, clinics and free-standing doctors.
Germany - health care is paid by a combination of taxes and insurance. The poor get a bargain, since health care is free to them. Those employed by large companies, by small companies and those in the “individual market,” either directly or through associations, pay a reasonable amount for their insurance.
US - health care is paid by a combination of taxes and insurance. The poor get a bargain, since health care is free to them. Those employed by large companies pay a reasonable amount for their insurance. But, there are many people who are caught in the middle. Insurance in the “individual market” is unaffordable.
Japan - health care is largely paid out of pocket. People carry insurance only for very, very big medical expenses.
Among the provisions in the Republican plan is allowing people to buy insurance through associations. I don’t know why this is even controversial. Either the Democrats are dumb as rocks or else seek they so hate people in the middle that they don’t care what happens to them.
35% tax.
Add in state and local sales tax.
Now add in state and local income tax.
For fun, let’s add in property tax, too (even renters pay it, just not directly).
Sounds awful.
Mideast sheiks go there
...
So do low level Muslim terrorists.
The Europeans have achieved their utopia and then only wish to enhance it by importing millions of unemployable Muslims.
Something else to consider
5 of the top ten drug companies are US companies
(1 from France)
Though it is important to note that ALL these drug companies own smaller companies and have offices and labs in other countries.
Spot on.
You are correct about medical tourism. It is very big. And, increasingly, it’s not just for the uber rich. Jordan and Singapore also generate big money through medical tourism.
Ain’t socialism great. Everything is free...
Thnaks. I happened to talk yesterday with a friend from Romania. He says private hospital do the same there. They have a menu with the prices. All money is paid up front. These prices are bargains as compared to what hospitals charge in the US.
Get some of that excellent French Health care.
Move to France now and avoid the Bastille Day rush.
Exit Visa from the US not required so now is the time to go!
Good healthcare and all the terror attacks you could want.
Nobel winners by country:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11926364/Nobel-Prize-winners-Which-country-has-the-most-Nobel-laureates.html The physiology/medical winners are ranked on the left column.
Heck, I remember when the Saudi royal family bought a multi-million dollar (chump change for them) mansion about 10 mins from me. They brought the whole gang with them, multiple generations, and they spent about 6 weeks there. Everyone got all their checkups, work done, surgeries at the Cleveland Clinic and then they flew back. No hotel rooms for this bunch!
I suspect they still own it, just loaning it out to others for the same reason.
What new health system ?
You forgot the VAT tax, where products are taxed many times along the production chain and then again at the point of purchase.
pay cash and no wait. The cost is so cheap that it’s easy to pay cash.
I’ve been to hospital in Germany twice in last 3 years. The first was a full emergency surgery operation and plush 3 day stay in lavish hospital - total cost 2,000€ cash
Second event was a one day hospital stay plus 4 follow up visits with all sorts of exorbitant techno tests and lab mumbo jumbo by a bunch of MD specialists - total
cost 1,200€ cash
It’s because their system isn’t corrupt. Our systems is corrupt through and through
I have heard that too.
But I wouldn’t want to live there. From the same person, I have heard they do not like air conditioning. i can’t live without it. In August, when they all go on vacation and leave their old family members at home, we read that score of elderly die at home of heat. Department stores are sweltering,no ac. Big stores with lots of sweaty people have no ac.
Where did your friend live, uS, Canada, France?
LMAO.
One good thing if true...EVERYONE pays 35% tax, one page form. Everyone has skin in the game.
Imagine if we had a similar tax system? The IRS would be 1000 employees instead of 79,000.
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France is a welfare state. Not EVERYONE pays 35%.. Only those who work. The parasites pay nothing.
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