Posted on 04/21/2017 8:18:44 PM PDT by Morgana
CNN)When John Haygood, a 10-year-old boy with autism, was arrested last week at a school in Florida, he kept repeating that he didn't know what was happening, as seen in shaky cellphone video taken by his mother. "I don't know what's going on. I don't understand," he cried out. In the video, his hands are cuffed as two officers escort him to the back seat of a police car. His mother, Luanne Haygood, followed behind them while recording the incident on her phone. In the video, John appears distraught, and yells some profanities.
Luanne is heard in the video speaking to the officers, "Excuse me, do you have any paperwork or anything you can say to me?"
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Autism is the new diagnosis du jour.
Did you know there's also now something called *Oppositional Defiance Disorder* where the kid does the opposite of whatever he's told?
In the old days, we called it rebellious, and took care of it appropriately.
Now they are coddled and reasoned with and negotiated with so as not to *trigger* them.
I am not kidding.
A lot of kids are labeled as autistic who aren't but are rather anti-social. In short, I don't trust the diagnosis any more as I think it's too widely applied when it's just an excuse for bad behavior.
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Basically a babysitter.
“Autism is a diagnosis based on the presence of inconsistencies and/or bad wiring.”
Your ignorance is astounding. “Bad wiring”? lol
He’s smart enough to learn. I bet he doesn’t talk that way to the biggest meanest kid in the school. He has simply learned he can act like an ass.
An earthworm can be trained to avoid an electric shock.
If he is incapable of learning not to attack people, he shouldn’t be in school at all. He should be sent to a junior nuthouse till he’s 18, then to a grownup nuthouse.
OR, as I suspect he could be taught, someone needs to paddle his little ass when he hits.
Autistic kids don’t belong in classrooms with “normal” kids. In our day, we had special ed. then the ACLU forced them on “gen pop” classrooms. My son’s public school K class was a disaster with two autistic “spectrum” boys who commanded 90% of the time of the teacher and two aides. And they had no choice...and it’s STUPID. We homeschooled him after that.
“Did you know there’s also now something called *Oppositional Defiance Disorder* where the kid does the opposite of whatever he’s told?”
Had not heard this! Schools have gotten lazy.
“A lot of kids are labeled as autistic who aren’t but are rather anti-social.” anit social or just bad parents?
Oompa loompa doompety doo
I’ve got another puzzle for you
Oompa loompa doompety dee
If you are wise you’ll listen to me
Who do you blame when your kid is a brat
Pampered and spoiled like a siamese cat
Blaming the kids is a lie and a shame
You know exactly who’s to blame
The mother and the father
Oompa loompa doompety da
If you’re not spoiled then you will go far
You will live in happiness too
Like the Oompa Loompa Doompety do
...”Autistic kids dont belong in classrooms with normal kids”...
You are right.....even parents have great difficulty controlling their outbursts...a teacher should not have to contend with their ‘special’ issues. But today they lump all kids together and it’s a mess.
I’m grateful my son pulled his girls out of public school to do their schooling on line. The excelled without all the drama and dangers that takes place in classrooms today....
Our schools have become incubators for out of control youngsters of all ages.
Much as hate to admit it but know some Down Syndrome kids that should not be there for same reason. Not Violent but still have outbursts and can’t be controlled without help. Some really don’t learn much. It’s a case by case basis, but a lot of them really don’t need to be in public schools.
This paraprofessional is a teacher’s aide.
Well there are outside tutors that would be better suited to help them....and they could still have access to school events with an escort....but there needs to be a change so that all have an environment that is conducive to study. That is not how it is now.
...”This nonsense for arresting little kids has got to stop”...
No it doesn’t....parents controlling their kids needs to start....and special needs children need to be taught in classrooms designed for their needs to be met.
I’m tired of well behaved kids getting knocked around by those who have issues that either the child cannot control or the parents refuse to seek treatments for...or both.
Further teachers hands are tied when it comes to violent students regardless of their issues....they have no recourse but to bring in the authorities.
....” his mother expects”....
We can name that tune in one note!
A person like the late Nathaniel J. Rosa, who, oddly, got shot taking a shower in a stranger's house.
Nathaniel J. Rosa |
The stranger is charged with first degree.
I’ve been trying to explain that to Japanese elementary schools for years :p
Well how else were they going to traumatize him into doing his homework?
But when he [little John Haygood] went back to school for mandatory testing April 12, WPEC said, a school resource officer recognized him and confirmed there was an outstanding warrant for his arrest.
What might a school resource officer be?
A quick google reveals the answer: a pig on school grounds.
We didn't need such when I was in school.
Not sure about that. Plenty of neurotypical students talk that way at school and the kids lack social skills (social inhibitions) while picking up language from the adults and children around them.
I don’t believe they need to put an autistic kid in hand cuffs. He should have been barred from attending classes before this happened. Their are institutions that provide one-to-one care but it’s hard to find one that is properly run and staffed. No, the kid shouldn’t be allowed to physically attack anyone but I don’t see how traumatizing with a “scene” including hand cuffs would help. Some of these schools are good and some further traumatize because they are understaffed, ideologically run, or have bottem-of-the-barrel teaches poorly supervised. One such place produced a very large teenager said to be violatile and agressive. Move him out of that heck-house similar to “One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest” and he is a sweet young man who responds well indeed to civil treatment. I don’t think we have enough info here but again - cuffs on a 10 year old with autism seems like misapplication of “the law.”
the cops ought to be ashamed of themselves
I’ve met Temple Grandin, one of the world’s leading authorities in autism. She is also severely autistic. She would say that the school the 10-year-old autistic boy was in, needs to learn the special needs of autistic students. They do need to learn good behavior and the way to do it is not by the school of hard knocks. It is through a rewards system that educators should have learned in their teacher’s training at the University. These students can be trained to use their best abilities. They have mental abilities in areas beyond the average person. Grandin is an example of a person with super mental abilities in design. There are few people like her in the world. She would say that schools can work with these students to help them find that special ability that autism has caused their adaptive mind to create. It is the same mechanism that enables a blind person to create a mental image of their environment through their sense of hearing. Autism creates a blind spot in the mind for normal function. The mind compensates by beefing up areas that it can function. Many times this adaptation becomes extraordinary abilities: E becomes MC^2.
Words fail me in this case. I can not imagine any rational explanation which would result in a 10 year old being removed from school grounds in handcuffs months after the incident.
So I have to assume it is irrational; that the school was so fearful of a lawsuit that rather than suspending the student or even expelling them, that they believed this was a rational manner to resolve it.
You need a ten year old down at the police station, you inform the parent. That ten year old doesn’t show, you send the officers to arrest the parent. No where in this mix is there a path to removing a student that young from the school grounds in handcuffs.
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