Posted on 03/30/2017 5:04:12 PM PDT by Trumpnation
SpaceX launches it's first recycled Falcon 9 rocket from Cape Canaveral, Florida, using a booster that sent food and supplies to the astronauts living at the International Space Station in April. Includes some random bystander footage near the end.
Here’s my spreadsheet which accurately predicts that the “half phase” moon should be visible in the sky with the sun in the afternoon, and yes, these calculations are based on the earth being round.
http://dropcanvas.com/0hn26
Please show where my calculations are wrong, since you claim that the round earth predicts that the “half phase” moon should NOT be above the horizon with the sun in the afternoon.
Thanks for taking the time to answer.
But in plain language, how is it possible that both sun and moon (at whatever phase) are both above 45 degrees in the same daytime sky?
Isn’t the idea that the reason the moon is blacked out in portions because the earth is in the way?
The curvature test remains. What do you think of those videos where you can see 52 miles to Chicago across the lake?
Someone is offering ten grand to anyone who can disprove.
“Isnt the idea that the reason the moon is blacked out in portions because the earth is in the way?”
No. You apparently have absolutely no knowledge of basic astronomy, to the point you don’t even understand why the moon phases exist (though you arrogantly think you do). The ONLY time the earth blocks part of the sun’s light from the moon is during a total eclipse, which can ONLY happen when the moon is full.
“The curvature test remains.”
No, it does not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WVq-8g-JmU
Watch the above video and learn.
“Someone is offering ten grand to anyone who can disprove.”
Someone is judging the answers for themselves and will ignore anything that disproves them. Like the above.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WVq-8g-JmU
Now pay me $10,000. If you won’t, then at least get off the forum and stop spewing your flat earth nonsense.
I never claimed to know the basics of astronomy, but you getting so emotionally worked up about my questions is very weird.
Since you’ve got such high powered lenses, do your own video at six miles for us:
a six foot tall man should NOT be visible at six miles if your camera is at six feet in height.
It should be VERY simple to prove and shut down all the arguments about the “circle of the earth that was drawn on the waters”...
We don’t have to be astronomers to judge this. Your strange and angry responses reveal more about this issue than you’d like to believe. Now go and do as Jesus teaches us... test all things. Prove all things. “Every man a liar but God’s word is true...”
I’ve already seen the curvature of the earth many times for myself. Roads are subject to local topology, your test lacks rigor and I’m not going to waste my time on it. You can see ships sail over the horizon just fine, and I showed you proof of this. You are deliberately ignoring the proof, the truth is not in you, repent and stop DISCREDITING CHRISTIANS! You are an embarrassment to all of us.
By the way, you have failed to refute my calculations regarding the moon. Know why? Because you’re a miserable failure at life who cannot defend his ridiculous beliefs.
1. Um, no, it’s actually a catalyst for the Gospel...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wByUlYmkfkU
Please refute using the Word of God.
2. Here is some math for you... please take your time and refute each of these five facts, with your calculations:
proving this wrong: 5 Facts About Earth They Didn’t Teach You In School
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDjdFNVj4rE
“Roads are subject to local topical topology...”
Okay, here is the famous flat river test. Please refute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUjMytEgLyw
Again, your personal attacks on me prove your insecurity about your arguments.
Lord bless you. And remember, actual Christians do not believe in aliens.
Typical religious nutjob nonsense. I’m not going to get into a theological discussion with you, but your “no true scotsman fallacy” is garbage. You do not get to dictate what “true Christians” believe in. Your Bedford level video is of such poor quality that I can not make heads or tails of what it is supposed to show. Your “5 facts video” starts off showing an incorrect depiciton of the motion of the solar system; the solar apex of the sun’s motion is NOT perpendicular to the ecliptic, and the planets do NOT “lag behind” the sun in any kind of “solar system vortex.”
Planets do not trail behind the sun as it travels through the galaxy the way that model describes (best seen at the start of his follow-up video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4V-ooITrws ). The solar apex, our solar system’s direction of travel relative to the local stars, projected onto the sky has the coordinates of about 18hr RA, +30 degrees Dec (http://books.google.com/books?id=RacoITLoz_oC&pg=PA350&lpg=PA350&dq=solar+apex+coordinates&source=bl&ots=Q58OU7qiM0&sig=Dmkn_a5aB_ehvan3Pv0i72t8d2E&hl=en&sa=X&ei=EA7LUNXgB6nE2gWxiYCwCA&ved=0CFoQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=solar%20apex%20coordinates&f=false ) whereas our north ecliptic pole has coordinates of about 18hr RA, +66.5 degrees Dec.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecliptic_pole
Even if you consider the motion of the local standard of rest within the arms of our galaxy ( http://www.gb.nrao.edu/~fghigo/gbtdoc/Reid_GalacMotionApj2009.pdf ) we are still not moving towards the ecliptic pole and we are still ahead of our sun at certain times of the year. In the latter case the vector of our direction of travel points to about 20h 57m, +47d 53’ which is separated from our ecliptic pole by about 30 degrees and places us ahead of the sun relative to its direction of travel in August, whereas in the former reference frame we’re ahead of the sun when the sun’s position along the ecliptic in our sky is at 6hr RA at the June solstice.
The “helical” model is in direct contradiction to simple empirical evidence. Were it true, Newcomb’s own data and calculations on the position of the sun as seen from earth would not work, but I have verified myself that they do work:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yccse1h6lIQ
You WILL now address my video showing the SpaceX rocket landing was real.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYSKls9B0Vc
Refute using science, not your personal and flawed interpretations of scripture.
Lord bless you, but this is typical (pagan) heliocentric nutjob nonsense.
You have not produced any ACTUAL photographs of the earth from space.
You have not refuted the six mile straight line curvature of the earth problem which would be eight inches squared per mile; at which a six foot tall man would not be able to see his six foot tall twin at six miles because he would be below the horizon line or have sunk with the curvature of the earth.
You have not produced any scientific test that proves the earth actually spins, or explained why the North star remains fixed no matter how many times the earth rotates!
And my “Christians do not believe in aliens” sign off was because, of course, all this BS is a set up for the “alien explanation” of God’s universe.
God created heaven and earth; He drew a circle upon the waters which is the earth; affixed the firmament in place; set the (self illuminating) moon and sun and stars in the firmament.
He did all of this for His most beloved creation: you and me.
Lord bless you on your endeavors, and may you understand that God also gave us free will in order that we might test and prove and evidence His handiworks — with an open mind.
Your need to shut me down, to shame me for free thinking etc., is shameful on your part. May you find the love of Christ which you so sorely need.
And then may Christ guide you into the bonneville salt flats or some other obvious flat plane with your camera lens as you do the six mile curvature test and then show us your handiwork as you prove to us the curvature of the earth.
That is not the correct formula for the curvature of the earth, but in any case you CAN see objects disappear over the horizon from the bottom up due to the curvature. Yes, I HAVE shown real photos of the earth from space!
https://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/
There you go, DAILY multiple images of the earth from space!
And oh look, I discovered comet P/2016 J3 using a NASA spacecraft on THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SUN, BEFORE IT WAS VISIBLE FROM EARTH! ver a month after the announcement of its discovery the comet finally became briefly visible from earth where it was photographed by another amateur astronomer from Denver, Colorado:
http://www.aerith.net/pictures/olason/2016J3_20160713_0332_molason.jpg
If NASA and space travel were all fake, then there’s no way I could have discovered that comet before it was visible from earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qt_wG117SA
I HAVE THE LOVE OF CHRIST, I AM A CHRISTIAN, YOU WILL NOT LECTURE ME ABOUT MY FAITH! DO YOU HEAR ME? YOU NEED TO LEAVE FREE REPUBLIC AND STOP TRYING TO DISCREDIT US!!!
So, what IS the correct formula for the curvature of the earth?
Why are you so afraid of my intellectual curiosity as a Christian that you need to tell me to leave FR?
Paul tells us to test all things and prove all things; we are to be apologists for the faith. So be a Berean about this and do your homework instead of ad homonim attacks on me.
Such infantile and unchristian behavior
Please just give me the correct math on the curvature of the earth... so we can all see why you are having such a fit in an innocent conversation about whether or not what the Bible says is true about the nature of reality.
You realize the NASA artist who creates these CGI fake composite blue marbles, has admitted they are fake? (Do just a tiny bit of research, thanks.)
And you realize you linked to the "SEX" fake CGI blue marble from 2015, and not an actual photo of the earth from space, right? And if you notice, "Sex" is written on the 2012 fake blue marble as well, right in the middle, just the same way "sex" is written into Disney cartoons?
http://thecoincidencetheorist.com/space/finding-sex-on-nasas-epic-earth-image-once-you-see-it-you-wont-unsee-it/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKFBheuN0ZY
NASA’s Robert Simmon AKA Mr Blue Marble
ADMITS NO PHOTOGRAPHS OF EARTH
Simmon says only one partial photograph of the earth has ever been taken... in 1972.
Says that they have zero photographs of earth from space.
Dear Messierhunter: now please cough up the “correct” formula for the curvature of the earth...
Thanks. And God bless.
If the earth is flat, how come you can’t see Europe with a telescope?
But we can see planets somewhat farther away than Europe with telescopes.
Hell, I can see a couple just by looking sometimes.
Why not Europe?
I read somewhere that Europe is closer than most planets.
you can focus on moon’s surface with a store bought camera
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRxlTKr0FU4
The Moon and Sirius In The Same Focus Range:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-8VMyVjLY8
“If the earth is flat, how come you can’t see Europe with a Telescope?”
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I’ve tried repeatedly but, no matter where I go to try, there’s always a tree or a house or a truck or a hill or something in the way blocking my view of Europe.
Nice quote mining you pathetic liar, there are tons of photos of the earth taken from space every day now.
https://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/
NO SHIT DUMBASS, THE MOON AND SIRIUS ARE BOTH AT INFINITY FOCUS! YOU’RE TALKING TO AN ASTROPHOTOGRAPHER WITH 17 YEARS EXPERIENCE YOU CLUELESS IDIOT!
OH LOOK, MORE FOOTAGE OF SPACEX SUCCESSFULLY LAUNCH AND LANDING, SUCK ON IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq0tdsaA0gg
SUCK ON IT YOU IDIOT, YOU WILL NOT DISCREDIT US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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