Posted on 03/01/2017 7:42:40 AM PST by BenLurkin
People with multiple accounts usually get zotted.
We’ll never know. If it was aliens, they’ve been eaten by the spiders by now.
I don’t. The first was banned back in 2011. I retired the second one because I just hated the name. I’ve been here since November of 1997.
Yup, just like they said. It’s an airplane. It’s high enough that it’s catching the orange rays of the setting sun. On the ground the sun is behind the mountains.
OK, just wondering. There’s an exception to every rule.
Most name changes keep their original signup date.
I didn’t even know you could change your name. I just changed accounts because it was so easy. It’s kinda funny when I get a lot of slams because I’m a newbie, but I feel a little bit like a troll when it happens. :-)
What is interesting is how people don’t respect your opinion when you show up as “this month”, even though you argue with liberals for over a decade on other sites, as I have.
Sounded like a sonic boom at one point.
Doesn’t look like contrails to me or they
would have appeared in the track.
Couldn’t see any aircraft at the front.
Don’t know what it was.
LOL
As for the subject video, it certainly is strange but distance, sunlight and atmospheric conditions can cause all sorts of strange abnormalities in what we see.......
As for the subject video, it certainly is strange but distance, sunlight and atmospheric conditions can cause all sorts of strange abnormalities in what we see.......
Yes, I remember that well and remember being attacked when I said it wasn’t a Chinese SLBM. In my Air Force career I served for 3 years at PAVE PAWS, the premier SLBM detection radar system, but my expertise was frowned upon, as it proved I was “one of them” by a couple of posters.
Eventually, the topic just went to the back burner and then disappeared completely. I wonder how those same folks now think about their hysteria?
I actually lost a lot of respect for a few Freepers over that one. I actually kept a list of names. It rose to that level for me. I hate discussing issues with people that simply won’t listen, unless it’s for comic relief, or to expose them - which I do on liberal sites a lot.
I have seen it all, as I'm sure you have. In my Air Force career, I had the highest security clearance and maintained all the various Intel databases, for example, everywhere I was stationed. Not that I poked around in them but we constantly had to tweak them and do test searches, queries, etc. to ensure all was in tiptop shape. While I won't reveal any classified info, I can say we—the DoD—did NOT have contact with aliens, did not purposefully leave behind thousands of POWs in Southeast Asia (in fact, we kept databases on every single report and sighting, no matter how vague or bizarre, on the HOPE that if we had ONE left behind we could get him out), etc., etc.
I got out in 1998 so I can't speak to the 9/11 Truther community directly, but what people need to understand is that other people are blabbermouths, especially if a story makes them look like a bigshot, a hero, etc., etc. So, my point is that the bigger the conspiracy, the more likely it is bullshit, as the bigger it is, the more people have to be involved.
Just because someone is a “redshirt” doesn't mean they're not valuable and have no story. So when I was talking to people who believed in Chemtrails about how the various Air Force people doesn't want to spray chemicals from the air that would kill their own families and friends, or that Sailors in the US Navy would talk if we “let” a Chinese sub fire missiles of out coast in our territorial waters (!!!), the word would get out faster than jackrabbit, they kept saying that the “little people” in the military would not be informed and if they knew, ordered to keep quiet.
LOL at that one. They never knew the Air Force troops I supervised. “Why do we have to do this Sarge?” Why this, why that, why, why why??!!!”
When I was a Master Sergeant in the Pentagon, a good friend who was an Army SFC I worked with asked me how I could put with up with all the complaining, second guessing and demands for more information from the Air Force troops. I noted that while it is a pain, once they fully understand the mission, they'll get it done with little or no supervision, often employing unique and smart solutions upper leadership wouldn't even have thought of. My experience with the other services was when something screwed up the younger troops would wait for someone ranking to come along and tell them what to do. Not to say all of them, but it happened more often.
Anyway, sorry for the rant. I think sometimes people like the idea of a grand conspiracy as it makes them feel in the know and not helpless to the whims of the world.
I think sometimes people like the idea of a grand conspiracy as it makes them feel in the know and not helpless to the whims of the world.
I noted that while it is a pain, once they fully understand the mission, they’ll get it done with little or no supervision, often employing unique and smart solutions upper leadership wouldn’t even have thought of.
I liked your rant. I have to say that the one “conspiracy” I really do buy into, though your thoughts above work against it, is Flight 800. I just refuse to believe it was not a missile, and the only question is, “who fired it”.
I thought about Flight 800 as I wrote that.
I do not know...
The two leading theories other than the central air tank exploding was it was a bomb, or a missile.
For the missile theory, one idea is it was a US Navy ship or sub firing missiles and accidently shot it down. I simply cannot buy this. We did a similar thing in the 80s when we purposely shot down an Iranian airliner we mistook for a military aircraft. Still, we admitted it very quickly and contritely. This happened during my Pentagon joint duty days, and I can tell you many of the sailors and officers aboard Vincennes had terrible remorse about it to the point that they could no longer serve. The pictures of dead children floating in the water didn’t help.
I just doubt a single sailor, if not dozens, wouldn’t have talked by now. I worked with databases at the Pentagon, and had lots of sailors in my unit. Many of them served aboard the Vincennes and other AEGIS cruisers, which were well staffed with Navy Data Processing ratings, so they knew and reported all the scuttlebutt.
The other missile theory was it was terrorists with a MANPAD of some kind, either on Long Island or a boat offshore. But the 747 was over 10,000 feet in altitude, and most MANPADs of those days just wouldn’t reach. And no terrorist group ever came forward to brag they did it, to the best of my knowledge.
Was it a bomb? Again, no terrorist group claimed it.
I just don’t know. The streak of light could have been an electrical discharge or such. Lighting can happen even in clear skies and meteorites are literally happening all the time, with only 1 in 1,000 big enough to leave a visible streak of light, but it could have been that.
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