[markomalley]

Oh, including all the surrounding populations not just LA City? If so, the LA metro/S.CA region has 20+ million.☺

I said 18 million (I looked it up)

D.C. is a piker when compared to massive populations centers and epic traffic venues such as the LA area.

Suggest you re-read my post. I am not claiming that LA doesn't have traffic. That would be crazy.

Having said that, there is a cornucopia of reasons not to live in metropolitan Los Angeles. But the traffic isn't one of those reasons. You people are sane drivers out there.

But I do have one question: when did you last live here...and/or commuted around here? Just in case you're not familiar, please check the following comparison:

Both are very typical commutes. There are definitely worse commutes...and ones that are not nearly as bad...in both areas.

[dragnet2]

Well, as far as drivers go, I concur. S. CA has some of the best non-professional drivers in the *world*. But unfortunately like CA itself, it has not only the best, but the worst of everything too, including drivers.

When people from smaller towns, who’ve never been here roll out of LAX, they’re literally blown away. They see 8 lanes of fwy, each way, as they see people changing lanes say at 75mph in 1.2 seconds into a hole barely big enough to fit a car into...And traffic doesn’t even flinch or hiccup. I get it.

[dragnet2]

It’s been a few years since I’ve been to D.C. and to be honest I don’t think I ever got outside the beltway.