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To: Lurkinanloomin

Hardly, lib, I am pushing exactly what the Constitution says. As I said, if you want to change that, get an amendment. You can’t just make new stuff up and try to gaslight us all with your BS. The Founders were smart people. If they wanted to have the restrictions you claim they did, why didn’t they simply put it into the Constitution from Day 1? We’re talking about the single most powerful office or person defined by the Constitution. Your whole ‘foreign influence’ argument falls apart with just a glance at the residency requirement. The definition of natural-born was at least 200 years old when the Constitution was written and had always been ‘having an attribute or quality from birth’. And all the sources that purport to define ‘naturals’ or ‘natives’ in a way that supports the birther position either don’t at all or use the terms interchangeably (see Blackstone ch. 10) and, as stated, are not themselves founding documents.

As for Cruz, simply prove neither of his parents were citizens at the time of his birth - Mr Edd has suggested a possible path for that, but I think that one has already been debunked - and you win that battle. And as for Obama, I personally doubt he was born in Hawaii due to the massive deception and coverup surrounding his proven-forged birth certificate(s) and other suppressed records and evidence, but that has yet to be fully substantiated, either. If foreign-born, by law he was not a citizen at birth (circumstances that did not apply to Cruz). But if you cannot prove those things, you cannot disqualify either man from the office beyond voting against them.

As I also said, do not confuse “qualified” and “desirable”.


55 posted on 02/04/2017 12:46:21 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: calenel; Lurkinanloomin

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Your logical and factual post is wasted on Lurkinanloomin; she is emotional and hysterical on this for some reason.

( most likely rejection of Godly Patriots I suspect)
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57 posted on 02/04/2017 1:02:20 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: calenel

They were smart people and you should read their writings so you have a clue. They could have just said citizen if you were correct.
They did not, they meant it to be restrictive, that’s why the used natural born citizen.
The “Laws of Nations” that George Washington borrowed from the NY library is where they got their definition.
The reason is explained in John Jay’s letter to George Washington.
Read some history of the founders.


58 posted on 02/04/2017 1:31:02 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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