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The Legendary Rifle That Fought World War II
Popular Mechanics ^ | 30 Dec, 2016 | Matthew Moss

Posted on 12/31/2016 9:29:45 PM PST by MtnClimber

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To: PotatoHeadMick
. . . tremendous expenditure of ammunition and much less accuracy.

Troops under combat might be expected to blast away emptying clips without proper aim, whereas a well-trained infantryman with a bolt-action will take more care firing fewer and better aimed rounds.

Exactly what is desired for the tactical doctrine of horizontal envelopment, two prongs alternately rushing the adversary's flanks.

Fire team A pours out volume of fire, each rifleman or BAR covering his assigned sector of the adversary's front, whilst Fire team B rushes to a new position on his assigned enemy flank, then commences same effective volume across the front to permit Fire team A to reach closer point-blank fire or bayonet killing contact with adversary on A's assigned flank.

This is not possible with bolt-action gear.

You would understand if you ever had been subjected to the incoming rate of massed covering fire of a Garand or M14-equipped infantry squad with two fire teams, or two squads, or a whole rifle platoon attacking your dug-in position. It is a storm of fire chewing up terrain that you just don't want to experience.

It takes a .30-06 or .308 round to effectively penetrate brush, soil, or light barricades such that the adversary cannot keep their heads up to deliver sustaining fire.

Theoretically. From a 1940's to 1950's infantry viewpoint. A rifle squad had thirteen men composing two rifle teams: Squad leader (M1); 2 BAR men (BAR); 2 assistant BAR men (M1s); and 8 riflemen, two of which would be the assistant squad leaders as Fire teams A and B leaders.

61 posted on 01/01/2017 3:14:33 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Bob434

For a frontal assault from a dug-in or barricaded immobile position (HMG watercooled, tripod mounted); or semi-portable LMG (air-cooled with bipod)


62 posted on 01/01/2017 3:22:13 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Charles Martel

I have one for my 10/22 stainless. I put a Leupold VX pistol scope on it (long eye relief) and it works great.


63 posted on 01/01/2017 3:22:58 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: MtnClimber

I’d like to see Trump approve new M1 Garand imports. We need them. I don’t have one.


64 posted on 01/01/2017 3:38:19 AM PST by Lazamataz (TRUMP LIED TO ME!!!! ....He said I'd get sick of winning.... AND I'M NOT SICK OF WINNING YET!!!!)
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To: MtnClimber
I learned to reload for two old Garands to shoot rabbits with.

Would load to smallest 30 caliber bullet. Our charge measure was a cut off 30-30 brass.

The charge was so low that we had to stuff a piece of toilet paper down the brass to hold the powder down against the primer so it would not layout.

Was not as cheap as 22s but my father did not care because we were learning our way.

I believe we came across these loads in the Rifleman magazine. To this day it was amazing how it would 9 out of 10 times cycle the Garand.

I have her gdaughter now, the M1A and have ran thousands (if not 10s of) rounds through a M14 but hunting rabbits with our reloads through those ol surplus Garands I will never forget.

Hopefully Trump will open sales of these back up to the US that ObucketOshit shut down. Just another in the long list of eff you America coming from this administration.

65 posted on 01/01/2017 5:04:23 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it, but ready to go again)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
My dad said that at the beginning of the war when he was in boot camp they had Springfields.

Yes they were shooting Springfields but these were chambered in rimfire 22 caliber to save on training costs.

Not until the recruits neared their end of training were they issued their service weapon chambered in 30-06.

66 posted on 01/01/2017 5:08:46 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it, but ready to go again)
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To: awelliott

It’s very little to do with the action and much to do with the design of the rifle. For reference, go shoot a Remington 700 and then a Browning A Bolt. They’re about the same mass, but the Browning feels like a horse kicked you.


67 posted on 01/01/2017 5:32:20 AM PST by sig226
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To: MtnClimber

Terrific weapon.


68 posted on 01/01/2017 5:33:01 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Parley Baer

“I assume it was a lend lease rifle”

You should verify that. If the rifle is original I think you’d be very pleasantly surprised at it’s value.


69 posted on 01/01/2017 5:37:12 AM PST by hardspunned
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To: Lazamataz

“I don’t have one”

CMP is still taking orders (for now). $630 will buy you a fully functional Garand shipped to your door.


70 posted on 01/01/2017 5:40:34 AM PST by hardspunned
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To: MtnClimber

Not to mention the legendary men who wielded it.....


71 posted on 01/01/2017 5:44:58 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: hardspunned

I originally bought a fine one at $160. I want a deal like that again (adjusted for inflation, of course... I bought that one in the mid 90’s, which is 20 years ago).


72 posted on 01/01/2017 5:49:47 AM PST by Lazamataz (TRUMP LIED TO ME!!!! ....He said I'd get sick of winning.... AND I'M NOT SICK OF WINNING YET!!!!)
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To: imardmd1

You have to underload .3006 for Garands, right? The modern hot ammo tears ‘em up?


73 posted on 01/01/2017 5:52:30 AM PST by Lazamataz (TRUMP LIED TO ME!!!! ....He said I'd get sick of winning.... AND I'M NOT SICK OF WINNING YET!!!!)
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To: Lazamataz

The CMP pipeline is running out. You know in twenty years we will be nostalgically talking of those $600 Garands.


74 posted on 01/01/2017 5:57:43 AM PST by hardspunned
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To: IncPen

ping


75 posted on 01/01/2017 6:00:10 AM PST by Nailbiter
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To: MtnClimber

Ironically, an earlier rifle was used later.

The M1903 Springfield, replaced by the M1 Garand in 1937, was mostly used in WWI. However, when the production rifles were being inspected, those that were “perfect” were given a star indentation on the end of the barrel. They were called “star bore” rifles, and instead of being issued out, they were given an identity card and warehoused. And forgotten.

However, some inquisitive congressman asked about all these warehoused rifles. When told they were unusually accurate, it was agreed that they should be issued out as sniper rifles. While they had a lower rate of fire than an M1 Garand, their accuracy was what was needed for snipers.

Used in WWII, Korea and even Vietnam.


76 posted on 01/01/2017 6:06:12 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Friday, January 20, 2017. Reparations end.)
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To: MtnClimber


77 posted on 01/01/2017 6:08:44 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: rlmorel

I have an 03A3,and yes it does have more felt recoil.But still it’s not objectionable.The M1 is smooth,and the M1A1 is even better.


78 posted on 01/01/2017 6:20:24 AM PST by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: rlmorel

Garand thumb can be prevented by placing your right hand on the receiver, palm against it, with the heal of your hand against the slide. When you push the clip into the magazine, the slide will release against the heal of your hand and that will prevent smashing your thumb.


79 posted on 01/01/2017 6:29:38 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees! - Kipling)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Main thing is to rack the bolt back properly. When done right, there will be a visible gap between the bolt face and the magazine follower. Then hold the op rod back with the edge of your hand, push down the follower a little, and push the op rod back. You will hear a “click” when the latch releases, then let it go forward.

M1 thumb generally happens when the shooter incorrectly lets the bolt face hang up on the mag follower, and then tries to close the bolt on an empty rifle. One slight touch of the follower with the thumb and SNAP!


80 posted on 01/01/2017 6:48:41 AM PST by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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