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Vanity: explain why I should fear Russia. Low taxes? Hetero marriage? Christianity? help me out
Dec 31 2016 | WilliamIII

Posted on 12/31/2016 12:27:51 PM PST by WilliamIII

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To: COBOL2Java; Syco; Alter Kaker
Are you suggesting that anyone who disagrees with YOU has their IP in Moscow?

Actually that was a poster who said "I've spent a lot of time in Russia..."

You can't make this stuff up! ;-)

201 posted on 12/31/2016 2:55:57 PM PST by TigersEye (Congratulations, President Donald J. Trump! - Let's MAGA!!!)
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To: COBOL2Java

Why is it, in your opinion, that blacks and Hispanics have been able to decrease their levels of alcoholism?


202 posted on 12/31/2016 2:57:53 PM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: SmokingJoe
“Putin is a heck of a lot more capitalistic and far more Christian than Obama will ever be.”

Yes, Putin is very much a capitalist and that is why he has accumulated a wealth of $70 billion from being a public servant.

203 posted on 12/31/2016 2:59:46 PM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: trisham
Who is more of a communist, Obama or Putin? Obama doesn't even know what capitalism is about. Every single policy Obama rammed through, including Obamacare has been socialistic.
204 posted on 12/31/2016 2:59:57 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Rurudyne

Wow. Okay then. We are 100% in full agreement. Seriously. Sorry for any misunderstanding.


205 posted on 12/31/2016 3:00:48 PM PST by Syco
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To: SmokingJoe

Putin is an ex-KGB thug.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexander_Litvinenko


206 posted on 12/31/2016 3:03:39 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Syco

No problemo.


207 posted on 12/31/2016 3:03:49 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Cowboy Bob

You get FR there?


208 posted on 12/31/2016 3:04:10 PM PST by onedoug
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To: SmokingJoe

In Russia, the government has majority control of the airline, the media the oil company, the communications company and the railroad.

That does not sound too capitalistic to me.


209 posted on 12/31/2016 3:04:17 PM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: RedWulf

“Why are they our enemy? “

Putin is a KGB thug. You do remember the Cold War thingy we had going on?
Having a knee jerk response to the Democrats sudden stance as victims of Putin; doesn’t change who Russia really is.

We can get along with Russia’; but they aren’t friends.


210 posted on 12/31/2016 3:04:37 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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To: SmokingJoe

Lol. Good point.


211 posted on 12/31/2016 3:05:00 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Timpanagos1

I don’t see Putin on Forbes list of the world’s richest men, which he would be if hr were really worth $70 Billion, coming in at #2 or #3. Forbes regularly includes dictators who have stolen state money in their richest lists. You are going to have to stop sniffing glue.


212 posted on 12/31/2016 3:05:59 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: COBOL2Java

Did you read the title of the thread? The first sentence reads “Vanity: explain why I should fear Russia.” It’s not off topic to list the reasons why OP should fear Russia. Reading is fundamental and you aren’t good at it.


213 posted on 12/31/2016 3:06:01 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker; WilliamIII

All the things that he is positive about did not cause the conditions you describe.

Russians were in that state when they came out of communism and are improving their birthrate. You exaggerate to say alcoholism is universal, it is high but not universal. The rest of what you accurately describe is a carryover from many generations of communism.

Other former Soviet blocs are not much better and in fact, former communist places like Croatia and Slovenia are in despair as well. Even non-communist nations are on the brink of anarchy, for example Greece.

It’s only been about 25 years since the fall of the USSR. That’s not quite a full economic generation yet. Russia does indeed have problems but they also have successes. They’ve always been that way in history.

Their biggest problem is the same as it was 100 years ago. They tend to be ruled by an autocracy. They have no culture or conditions for widespread innovation and technological disruptive invention. The latter exists in the USA largely due to the role of courts (e.g. Ma Bell breakup). Russians excel at many things because they have geniuses who are most often picked up and cared for by the autocratic ruling families.

There are 3 families that rule Russia. Putin is from one of them. They are presently at peace with one another. That is Putin’s achievement.


214 posted on 12/31/2016 3:08:29 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Timpanagos1
Why is it, in your opinion, that blacks and Hispanics have been able to decrease their levels of alcoholism?

I never said that was my opinion.

215 posted on 12/31/2016 3:11:32 PM PST by COBOL2Java (1 Tim 2:1-3)
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To: SmokingJoe

According to Forbes:

“We do not include royal family members or dictators who derive their fortunes entirely as a result of their position of power, nor do we include royalty who, often with large families, control the riches in trust for their nation.”


216 posted on 12/31/2016 3:11:34 PM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: Timpanagos1

If they did, Fidel Castro would have been at the top of the list.


217 posted on 12/31/2016 3:12:05 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: A_perfect_lady

I don’t know Tom but I’m starting to really like him!

Anyway, Russians are smart and funny and I’m not scared of them. We both countries need to ditch the media, the Alinsky mocking, the PC, and be proud of our countries and kick Islamist and PC ass together all over the world. And eat caviar and blinis, maybe with tequila....


218 posted on 12/31/2016 3:13:24 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Alter Kaker
It’s not off topic to list the reasons why OP should fear Russia.

No, but it is off topic to attempt to hijack a thread, which is what you tried to do. And you never listed the reasons; you merely bullied your own - inane I might add - personal opinions as to why Russia is a failed state. Others have countered your poor reasoning. Yet you stubbornly held to them.

No worries, the opinions, frail as they are, are yours to spout.

219 posted on 12/31/2016 3:16:14 PM PST by COBOL2Java (1 Tim 2:1-3)
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To: Timpanagos1
The policies of the U.S. government (and all Western governments) have been in the interests of every group except the white working class for at least the last 3 decades.

Washington Post (12/23/16):

Nine charts that show how white women are drinking themselves to death

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/national/wp/2016/12/23/nine-charts-that-show-how-white-women-are-drinking-themselves-to-death/?utm_term=.e87a6c9a2590

220 posted on 12/31/2016 3:16:48 PM PST by AC Beach Patrol
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